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Post by oldchopperguy on Nov 12, 2013 14:03:25 GMT -5
It seems like a small thing, but... I wonder how many riders find their scoots drag the center-stand or other "parts down-under" when cornering?
Five years of riding my Xingyue 150 got me used to knowing that any "enthusiastic" cornering was likely to drag parts... And anything beyond very gentle leaning around a multi-lane surface street, keeping up with fast-moving traffic through a turn, would easily lift both wheels off the pavement. THAT can quickly make you a lot friendlier with the car next to you than you'd like to get!
A month of riding my current "new" old Kymco 250 has proven to be interesting! I gingerly "explored" just HOW far I could safely lean through a turn, and so far, have not been able to get anything to drag. VERY good! Apparently, the design tucks the lower parts in a little closer than the Chinese 150... Maybe because it's an early "touring" design (but still very similar to the standard 150 in general) and designers anticipated the need to safely lean over at highway speed, through sweeping curves.
Happily, it seems like I could almost drag the handlebar-ends around curves... (well, not really... at least not recommended!) before anything would scrape. It's a little thing, but it makes general riding much safer, and more confident knowing within reason I can lean over enough to accelerate with traffic around turns without catching anything on the ground. In rush-hour traffic, THAT is a real PLUS.
Dragging parts when cornering is not something I've seen posted about often, but I wonder how common it is. I believe it's a LOT more common with scooters than with motorcycles. It's good to worry only about slippery spots while turning, without having to be concerned about "high-centering" and lifting the scooter-tires off the ground too!
My old 150 truly DID need to be kept pretty "vertical" around turns to keep from dragging. Was that just me, or do others notice the typical 150 being a little too close to the ground?
Ride safe!
Leo in Texas
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Post by pmatulew on Nov 12, 2013 19:45:04 GMT -5
I haven't created any sparks with my Lance Milan 150, (yet). I would have expected to since it's more of a wider butt "classic" style body. Still gingerly exploring how much I trust those tires. Then again I haven't been trying to keep up with you either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 19:54:00 GMT -5
MY BMS hasnt but the Tao did a few times. Scares the crap outa ya!
My mother in law on the other hand cant lean over without dragging something.
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Post by rockynv on Nov 13, 2013 5:31:37 GMT -5
Even the foot pegs on the MSF student bikes drag during spirited riding. My Lance would drag the pedel on the center stand and the Kymco Super 8 will drag the stand and the muffler. Glad they got it better with your 250.
The Aprilia Sport City 250 I ride will hit the belly pan when you are at the limits of the tire tread in both a left or right hand turns. It almost looks like they intentionally put a downturn at the back edge of the pan to warn you that you are at the limit. What else would you expect from a insane Italian Sport Bike Company.
The first time I caught them I was on a 50 mph road and hit a series of really tight snake curves and caught the belly pan a few times while I slowed down while thinking that they should have posted that at 20 MPH. The sound had people running outside to see what was going on. On my way back I found the warning and speed signs covered with vines and overgrown trees. I have learned to bring my GPS when riding unfamiliar roads now and keep it zoomed at a level that allows me to look ahead far enough to know what to expect and adjust accordingly.
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Post by urbanmadness on Nov 13, 2013 15:57:23 GMT -5
my 150 verano.... I've scrapped just going around a corner, albiet a little... ummm.... well fast.... My 250de bali, will scrape the muffler on the right pretty easily as well. The Roar I've been working will scrape, but, you have to be a little more spirited. I don't have the... ummmm anway, to take the 500 scarabeo or bv500 fast enough in turns to even come close to scraping.... The 150de Bali can lean pretty far.... The roma I rebuilt, could really lean, you just didn't have any power to roll out of the turns.
It really depends on the bike.
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Post by nulldevice on Nov 30, 2013 15:18:26 GMT -5
Shift and lean your body into the curve as well as the scooter and a whole bunch of your scraping issues will go away. The idea is to shift your body's center of gravity to the inside of the cruve. Extreme examples of this can be seen on "knee dragging" images of motorcycle races.
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Post by richardthescooter1 on Nov 30, 2013 15:22:18 GMT -5
I have the MC-54-250B Roketa Touring scooter and I have leaned her over pretty far, never had trouble with scraping
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