Post by bambamofatlanta on Mar 13, 2013 21:46:45 GMT -5
First Night Ride with LED:
I fired up my dimly lit Piece Sports twin 18 watt Baja style lights.
Then I hit the 27 watt LED narrow beam headlight and night became DAY with VIVID color!
I can see again!
Who says you have to have HID? Screw them, LED does the job without a totally new HD electrical system!
You can find them on E-Bay under "27W LED WORK LIGHT PENCIL BEAM OFF ROADLAMP TRUCK BOAT JEEP CAR 12V 24V 4WD 4x4"
Why LED works with very little watts:
But how can 27 watts blow the doors off other premium lights?
Light meters consistently say, HUMANS you are all crazy.
I know a company that spent hundreds of thousands on it's new corporate building's low pressure sodium high efficiency lighting.
Everyone complained and at the cost of maybe millions, they had to rewired the whole building for regular lights as this system was something like 400volts with low amps.
Human eyes, unlike light meters, have Rods & Cones that see two different light spectrums. Most lights produce light with one spike outside our vision range so most of the light and watts is wasted even though the light meter says it is working. Like some parking lot garages we have all seen with their bazaar yellow light that destroys the color to all the cars.
LED is odd in that it's light has 2 peaks and while they do not perfectly hit the peaks for our Rods and Cones, they overlap like no other light can.
Hence why colors are so vivid and our vision is well beyond what any light meter says it should.
Simply, humans love LED. Don't get me wrong, HID is great too, but at a very high cost and high heat and high amps, all of which our scooters hate.
Review:
The LED light I bought off E-Bay for $30 to the door is NOT plastic nor stamped sheet metal.
In fact there is NO plastic except for the fairly thick lens behind the shroud.
It is all HD cast Aluminum with shockingly large bolts and fairly thick steel mounts.
I mounted it above the twin lights to the same shield that is unique to Peace Sports. There is no vibration or shake ... odd since factory tires are anything but round.
While the Internet was clear that LED light,s being diodes, will work with AC, their life spans can be severely shortened. I had one LED brake light only last an hour or two and now I know why.
Simply you will only need a bridge rectifier as the AC is regulated. And Radio Shack sells them on E-Bay. I got the 3 pack so my LED tail lights will be DC only to increase their life span too. The 3rd is a back up. They are very very small and marked for wiring. The 3 pack was ... ummm memory says a buck or two each.
Unlike normal headlights, these do not dim at idle. They stay bright till the idle gets below 1000 with a little dimming and pulsing. They never turn brown.
The twin 18 watt factory lights add nothing to this one. You might as well turn them off showing that the combined 36 watts does not contribute and only adds needless load to the electrical system.
Last, we all know that LED last a long long time and even if one light blew, you will not be left in the dark.
Legal? and Beam Pattern?
They are rated about 30 degrees and about 15 degrees L & R is about right. Simply they are not well patterned for on coming traffic.
Hence why I wired them to the high beam (they lie, super low beam Vs ultra low beam.)
I stepped out front of my scooter about 20 yds and to the other lane.
They did not blind me, but I would not say they were normal either.
I left it on and past about 15 cars. No one flashed me. That is a very small sample and maybe the next 15 will have 1/2 flash me.
I admit it is pushing the edge, I will let others on the road decide for me.
And update here if they are a problem.
If they flash, then I will limit them to high beam empty road only.
I saw nothing that says DOT on them.
There are some rated for the road and if memory serves me right, they start at over $100.
If they are too bright for low-beam, then clearly this light is not the full answer. But now I believe LED is the right direction for our low output electrical systems. At least in the future when DOT versions come out.
I fired up my dimly lit Piece Sports twin 18 watt Baja style lights.
Then I hit the 27 watt LED narrow beam headlight and night became DAY with VIVID color!
I can see again!
Who says you have to have HID? Screw them, LED does the job without a totally new HD electrical system!
You can find them on E-Bay under "27W LED WORK LIGHT PENCIL BEAM OFF ROADLAMP TRUCK BOAT JEEP CAR 12V 24V 4WD 4x4"
Why LED works with very little watts:
But how can 27 watts blow the doors off other premium lights?
Light meters consistently say, HUMANS you are all crazy.
I know a company that spent hundreds of thousands on it's new corporate building's low pressure sodium high efficiency lighting.
Everyone complained and at the cost of maybe millions, they had to rewired the whole building for regular lights as this system was something like 400volts with low amps.
Human eyes, unlike light meters, have Rods & Cones that see two different light spectrums. Most lights produce light with one spike outside our vision range so most of the light and watts is wasted even though the light meter says it is working. Like some parking lot garages we have all seen with their bazaar yellow light that destroys the color to all the cars.
LED is odd in that it's light has 2 peaks and while they do not perfectly hit the peaks for our Rods and Cones, they overlap like no other light can.
Hence why colors are so vivid and our vision is well beyond what any light meter says it should.
Simply, humans love LED. Don't get me wrong, HID is great too, but at a very high cost and high heat and high amps, all of which our scooters hate.
Review:
The LED light I bought off E-Bay for $30 to the door is NOT plastic nor stamped sheet metal.
In fact there is NO plastic except for the fairly thick lens behind the shroud.
It is all HD cast Aluminum with shockingly large bolts and fairly thick steel mounts.
I mounted it above the twin lights to the same shield that is unique to Peace Sports. There is no vibration or shake ... odd since factory tires are anything but round.
While the Internet was clear that LED light,s being diodes, will work with AC, their life spans can be severely shortened. I had one LED brake light only last an hour or two and now I know why.
Simply you will only need a bridge rectifier as the AC is regulated. And Radio Shack sells them on E-Bay. I got the 3 pack so my LED tail lights will be DC only to increase their life span too. The 3rd is a back up. They are very very small and marked for wiring. The 3 pack was ... ummm memory says a buck or two each.
Unlike normal headlights, these do not dim at idle. They stay bright till the idle gets below 1000 with a little dimming and pulsing. They never turn brown.
The twin 18 watt factory lights add nothing to this one. You might as well turn them off showing that the combined 36 watts does not contribute and only adds needless load to the electrical system.
Last, we all know that LED last a long long time and even if one light blew, you will not be left in the dark.
Legal? and Beam Pattern?
They are rated about 30 degrees and about 15 degrees L & R is about right. Simply they are not well patterned for on coming traffic.
Hence why I wired them to the high beam (they lie, super low beam Vs ultra low beam.)
I stepped out front of my scooter about 20 yds and to the other lane.
They did not blind me, but I would not say they were normal either.
I left it on and past about 15 cars. No one flashed me. That is a very small sample and maybe the next 15 will have 1/2 flash me.
I admit it is pushing the edge, I will let others on the road decide for me.
And update here if they are a problem.
If they flash, then I will limit them to high beam empty road only.
I saw nothing that says DOT on them.
There are some rated for the road and if memory serves me right, they start at over $100.
If they are too bright for low-beam, then clearly this light is not the full answer. But now I believe LED is the right direction for our low output electrical systems. At least in the future when DOT versions come out.
..BAD TO THE BONE..
% of our night vision. That is why we cannot see color at night. I could go on..but I am wasting my College Degree and what I learned in a Human Physics class on someones speculation...assumption and continual off the wall ramblings. Here is a pic for ya...now show me yours? High School Diploma even. Wanna impress me WITHOUT using Wikipedia..tell me the frequency for each of the Primary Colors and what the human frequency threshold for light is. 
Also which blinker bulb base do you have..the T10/194 press in..or the twist in base ones?.
