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Post by tomfl62 on Sept 22, 2013 9:27:19 GMT -5
I found this on you tube and it really works ,saves time and hard work , you can use it to remove and install the tire ,but make sure you use plenty of soap on the bead . ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 14:28:14 GMT -5
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Post by bwader on Sept 22, 2013 15:36:19 GMT -5
When I thought I saw it all!
I did a 13inch scooter tire last year and my Suzuki GZ 250 yesterday using just tire irons and dish soap.
Doesn't take too much effort if you do it right. Though does take a little muscle or leverage at times.
I stood on the old tire after taking out the valve core and soaped up the tire and stood on the sides and flipped over and broke the bead with my body weight.
If you don't want to use soap people use baby power too to do it dry too.
Can't say I'd use a bunch of big zip ties to do this on my next tire change.
But DIY can save yourself a lot of money and give you a headache too. More often than not. But when you get it done its all worth it to save $40 or I'm sure it costs more dollars paying somebody else to do it.
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Post by rockynv on Sept 22, 2013 19:42:56 GMT -5
$25 is what the local Cycle Gear charges mounted and balanced and they eat the cost of replacing the rim and tire if they damage either of them and will take care of things if the bead leaks or the tire does not run smoothly after they mount and balance it.
Those heavy duty zip ties are not all that cheap either and can be over $1 apiece. Also each one is an opportunity for the seat of the bead to get damaged bad enough to leak.
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Post by tomfl62 on Sept 22, 2013 22:46:15 GMT -5
The zip ties were under $3 for 5 at wal mart I installed the tire very with very little effort with plenty of soap .
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Post by trailheadmike on Aug 23, 2015 8:08:53 GMT -5
It was time to change the rear tire yesterday, and after getting tired of paying more than the price of the tire to have it mounted I tried this method. I needed to put my fat to good use pushing down towards the end, but I got the tire on in less than 10 minutes. I've done a 13" tire with tire irons before and I found it was virtually impossible, not to mention distorted the bead such that it was hard to get it to sit. No such problem with this method.
I should also note that i put the rim on four pieces of scrap wood so as not to rest it on the brake disc.
If anyone is concerned about the price of the ties, I got a pack of 10 24" ties at Harbor Freight for $1.69. I used 8 for this project. Happy changing!!!
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Post by beenriding on Aug 23, 2015 8:57:49 GMT -5
It was time to change the rear tire yesterday, and after getting tired of paying more than the price of the tire to have it mounted I tried this method. I needed to put my fat to good use pushing down towards the end, but I got the tire on in less than 10 minutes. I've done a 13" tire with tire irons before and I found it was virtually impossible, not to mention distorted the bead such that it was hard to get it to sit. No such problem with this method. I should also note that i put the rim on four pieces of scrap wood so as not to rest it on the brake disc. If anyone is concerned about the price of the ties, I got a pack to 10 24" ties at Harbor Freight for $1.69. I used 8 for this project. Happy changing!!! That's awesome you got it done so quickly and easily. My last tire change was a disaster. The factory authorized Honda dealer kept putting them on, 1'st, the front tire on rear rim, 2'nd got the rotation wrong TWICE... Took 5 1/2 hrs to get a tire swap, and just over $100 for two tires. Pissed! I usually pay 20-25$ per, never again. I saw this vid. last week and will try it next tire change. |
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Post by trailheadmike on Aug 23, 2015 9:29:45 GMT -5
beenriding Here is the vid I used - the guy doesn't abuse the rim so much as the first vid and and he gives a good tip about cutting off the ties once the tire is mounted - use the tire groove.
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Post by bandito2 on Aug 23, 2015 9:39:19 GMT -5
That's awesome you got it done so quickly and easily. My last tire change was a disaster. The factory authorized Honda dealer kept putting them on, 1'st, the front tire on rear rim, 2'nd got the rotation wrong TWICE... Took 5 1/2 hrs to get a tire swap, and just over $100 for two tires. Pissed! I usually pay 20-25$ per, never again. I saw this vid. last week and will try it next tire change. There really should be no excuse for that kind of incompetence, but I've run into it before, though less disastrous. Had a front tire changed and as I was tossing it in to the back of the truck, I noticed the errant direction of rotation. Took it right back in and they fixed it right away. Well, maybe not incompetence, just not paying close enough attention to what they were doing. But still.... I don't have the tools for the task and would rather the "pros" do it in case something gets damaged, then they take the responsibility for it. Really it should not be a problem to get a few tools to do it myself, but I'd rather not. Maybe it's from my childhood experiences of a few bloodied fingers pinched when trying to replace particularly difficult (for some reason) bicycle tubes & tires. |
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Post by JR on Aug 23, 2015 9:40:59 GMT -5
$25 is what the local Cycle Gear charges mounted and balanced and they eat the cost of replacing the rim and tire if they damage either of them and will take care of things if the bead leaks or the tire does not run smoothly after they mount and balance it. Those heavy duty zip ties are not all that cheap either and can be over $1 apiece. Also each one is an opportunity for the seat of the bead to get damaged bad enough to leak. While this is a good policy one needs to remember scooter rims aren't on the shelf at the local hardware store. Sometimes they can be quite hard to find. No matter how I put the tire on I'm going to be more cautious and caring than any business would. JR |
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Post by JR on Aug 23, 2015 9:44:19 GMT -5
I think I just found some additions to the video tech section! JR  |
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Post by JerryScript on Aug 23, 2015 10:58:25 GMT -5
I took my rear tire to Pep Boys, they mounted it in two minutes. When I asked how much, the guy at the counter said just tip the guy that mounted it. Living in Vegas, a nice tip will get you by more often than not!
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Post by beenriding on Aug 23, 2015 12:29:26 GMT -5
I took my rear tire to Pep Boys, they mounted it in two minutes. When I asked how much, the guy at the counter said just tip the guy that mounted it. Living in Vegas, a nice tip will get you by more often than not! I asked the Big-O down the street, they said no! You lucky doggg! |
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Post by novaraptor on Aug 24, 2015 9:31:49 GMT -5
I had some problems mounting my replacement, so took it to Motorcycle Tire Center. They finished the mounting at no charge, so I tipped 'em a $20. Then had to go back in cause the bead hadn't set properly. No problem... I've bought motorcycle tires from Cycle Gear, but don't have them do the change, because their lead time is usually 4 or 5 days..
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Post by rockynv on Aug 25, 2015 4:12:39 GMT -5
I had some problems mounting my replacement, so took it to Motorcycle Tire Center. They finished the mounting at no charge, so I tipped 'em a $20. Then had to go back in cause the bead hadn't set properly. No problem... I've bought motorcycle tires from Cycle Gear, but don't have them do the change, because their lead time is usually 4 or 5 days.. Here its taken care of immediately on a walk-in basis however I rarely buy a tire from Cycle Gear as they are the most expensive. The local multi-brand Motorcycle dealer who also sells Vespa/Piaggiom Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Eton Scooters has the best tire prices around and charges about the same as Cycle Gear for the mounting and balancing however they remove the wheels from the bike, mount the tires and put them back on the bike detailing it afterwards all within an hour returning a clean shiny ready to ride bike to you. I bought my Michelin Power Pure front tire from them and it was $  for a 120/70-15 which came to $119 mounted and high speed balanced installed on the bike. If they mess up they will also buy you a new rim if their rim technician can't repair it and have an account with Parts for Scooters who is a local vendor if the need to get a rim for a Chinese scooter. Your local motorcycle dealers may surprise you with better than internet pricing since many are getting pretty competitive for you long term business. |
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for a 120/70-15 which came to $119 mounted and high speed balanced installed on the bike. If they mess up they will also buy you a new rim if their rim technician can't repair it and have an account with Parts for Scooters who is a local vendor if the need to get a rim for a Chinese scooter. Your local motorcycle dealers may surprise you with better than internet pricing since many are getting pretty competitive for you long term business.