How can we be so arrogant (towards the Chinese)?  By  prodigit (Read 12,838 times)

Tell that to 6 of my customers with Cavilers that are still on the road, have done their maintenence and not any major work.

From their service records

1. 262,114
2. 243,061
3. 213,592
4. 202,912
5. 196,743
6. 192,645

These cars have lived in Wisconsin all their lives.

Jim

I guess some folks just hate to admit that dollar for dollar Chinese scoots are a much better value than those high priced "Motor Snooters"

Yep, practically giving them away.

I would hardly call a 125cc scoot that's been sitting on the lot for nearly 4 years "new". But it is obvious that pressure from the more realistic Chinese priceing is having it's effect. I would be on my guard about this "deal" (Probably one of those knockoffs from YUGOslavia.) ;D

This site www.scooterdepot.us/250cc-Moped-Scooters-p-1-c-61.html lists Chinese 250's with MSRP much higher than your Kymco MSRP which as we know means nothing...

As you may notice I am actually for chinese scoots. I agree with what you say, but I don't try to say chinese products are bad. But it is true that the quality of the product is inferior to Korean, Japanese, and US products.

That being said, I have several chinese scoots mopeds, and motorcycles, and only 2 non-chinese forms of transportation, being my Honda Shadow VT750, and my car.

And I only have those because they're not yet selling $6k chinese cars in USA.
Despite them being inferior, they're more than safe enough for travel, when riding safely. If you plan on riding a chinese car on the highway at 100MPH (provided it could do that), you might be asking for trouble if you lose control of the wheel.

In fact I wanted to buy a chevy Sonic, but they didn't have them with the 1.4l turbo engine yet. if I now had to buy a car, it would be a Sonic with 1,4l turbo engine.
Instead I went with the Chevy cruze, which had that same 1,4l ecotec engine with turbo, but only had a larger body (of 3300 LBS dry weight).
The 1.4 liter pulls the car so much better than any toyota I've tried, in fact, I sat in a 2009 matrix last week, and almost fell asleep, as the engine and transmission where fighting the floored pedal, slow acceleration.
I was surprised that that tiny car, with 1.8 liter (400cc more displacement) had such a hard time keeping up.
Good thing about the Sonic, Cruze, and the Spark as well, is that the engine housing is made out of steel, rather than aluminum. The engineers said that the steel only gave a minor weight increase, because they could make it more thin walled than with aluminum, and at the same time the engine should last almost 200k miles, compared to 120k miles on the aluminum small displacement engine.

anyway, off topic, but Chinese products are great for the money!
Even if they are a bit inferior to the Japanese models (just like I found the Japanese models to be inferior to modern US cars)

Another topic that Sanmar touched, is performance.

Quite often we need to compare different displacement for same performance, meaning acceleration or top speed.
On the 50cc plane, Chinese and Japanese bikes perform much the same.
But Korean or Japanese 125cc bikes often perform similar to chinese 150cc, or
200cc bikes compare to chinese 250cc bikes...