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Post by jrnyman on Aug 12, 2013 20:27:40 GMT -5
Greetings from Arizona!
I recently bought a 2012 Jonway 150 and so far I've been fairly satisfied with it. The original owner had it for about 8 months and only put 400 miles on it so it's pretty much brand new. When I went to look at it I was impressed with the care he had given it and honestly, you couldn't tell it had ever been ridden. It runs great and so far, it hasn't presented any issues.
That said, there are a couple of things I'm not completely satisfied with and will address them as time and $$ permit. The first thing I would like to tackle is the dim headlights. They're just plain inadequate. I was hopeful I would find a direct replacement for the bulbs with an LED bulb and that would be that. Unfortunately, a few searches for that exact item hasn't produced any results. So, my question is this...
Is there a direct-fit LED replacement for either of the bulbs? If not, could someone be so kind as to point me in the right direction for an upgrade that produces more light than the OEM bulbs. The rest of the lamps (turn signals, brake, tail, etc.) are plenty bright but the headlights are.... well, you know what I'm talking about.
Many thanks for your time and any help you can offer.
Great forum here with many knowledgeable folks ready to lend their help and support.
Regards,
Steve
Chandler, AZ
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Post by geh3333 on Aug 12, 2013 21:34:12 GMT -5
i also have a jonway 150 and my h lights also suck as do many china scoots., however i cant give you an answer bcause i havnt tried any other lights yet. i do intend to use this post also for an alternative .
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Post by scoots on Aug 12, 2013 22:47:25 GMT -5
go to auto zone and get fog lamps like for a truck or car depeinding o what mods u have look for 12v or 35w
if u look in my pic i use a 55w bulb never blew out no problems at all hooked it to my normal beam light so when i need my high beam i can use both ;D
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Post by jrnyman on Aug 13, 2013 1:34:44 GMT -5
go to auto zone and get fog lamps like for a truck or car depeinding o what mods u have look for 12v or 35w if u look in my pic i use a 55w bulb never blew out no problems at all hooked it to my normal beam light so when i need my high beam i can use both ;D Hey Scoots, thanks for the reply. I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly about the fog lamps. Are you saying I should get a fog light - complete with housing and lens - and attach it to my bike or are you suggesting I just use the bulb from the fog lights and replace the bulbs currently installed? I looked at your pics... pretty nice setup. How is the led rope light powered? And lastly, you mentioned purple LED dash lights. Were you able to find direct fit replacements? Thanks a heap for your info! Steve |
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Post by scoots on Aug 13, 2013 7:15:31 GMT -5
use one lamp with housing i was lucky and had a bolt right abovve my stok headlight and it sits above it
my purple leds are wedge bulbs SMD's ebay for like a dollar
u can use the rest in ur car like i did
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 13, 2013 8:28:16 GMT -5
Ive got an HID installed. The kit was supposed to replace BA20D, H4 and something else. It is for a DC circuit, so I use the white AC lead to energize a relay for an added DC circuit. I still haven't taken a picture. My headlight housing has a lot of airspace. Even when I did ten minutes of data logging on the center stand, the front of the lens never got too hot to touch. I know it is wickedly brighter than the 18/18 BA20D that was originally in there, and it sure looks like it beats the H4 (45/45) I had rigged up (The H4 had a bad shadow problem due to the aluminized black tip). I said this kit was SUPPOSED to replace the BA20D... but none of the adapters would mate with the housing like the original. So zip-ties it is. This is the kit, but when I click on it, I don't see any pictures, maybe because I am at work... www.ebay.com/itm/HID-KIT-Motorcycle-bi-xenon-head-light-hi-lo-dual-sport-h4-ba20d-h6m-ktm-yamaha/321165965831Even less cost, this one does have images in the body www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Auto-Car-Dual-HI-LO-BEAM-HID-Conversion-Kit-H4-BA20d-6000K-Xenon-Bulb-lamp-/171096513571 |
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Post by sanmar on Aug 13, 2013 11:12:36 GMT -5
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 13, 2013 15:35:51 GMT -5
jrnyman,
I'm in the process of adding an LED headlight to my Xingyue 150 myself. I'm taking pix, and when it's done, I'll do a post on it.
LED lights are "lightyears" ahead of (pun intended...) incandescent bulbs. The "legality" of them is questionable. Around my area, they are VERY common, and the police don't seem to care if they're DOT approved. Some states may have a much stricter view on them.
LED's are "supposed" to be used on DC current. The vendors I got mine from (eBay) say they're OK on AC, but I personally think AC will shorten their life. I'm connecting a "bridge rectifier" on my AC line to provide DC current to the LED. You could run them off the battery, but the teensy 7 amp-hour battery has enough to deal with and stay charged. The 2 amps or so the LED draws I'd like to keep running off the factory headlight circuit which is AC.
I'm firmly convinced LED's are the way to go. Check out the tips section on this site and you'll find a post "27 watts... OMG I can SEE"... True! I've posted there, along with others. LED's are MANY times brighter than incandescent bulbs, and light up the road. They can be blinding to oncoming traffic if not carefully aimed, so that must be considered. I'm currently running a pair of 35 watt Chinese headlight bulbs (direct replacement for the 18W originals). 70 watts total, and they are STILL only MARGINALLY better than the originals. Not enough to be worthwhile.
I'm going to connect the new LED light to my "high-beam" switch so the original lights are "on" as usual for daylight and well-lit night riding. Then, when the "high-beam" switch is activated, the lows go out and the LED comes on. It then becomes a "useable" proper low beam. True high-beams are just not needed as the LED provides plenty of light for any speed the scoot will go.
I simply felt the stock "dip-switch" as the manual calls it would be the easiest way to go from one set of lights to the other.
The lights on these are truly awful... Although still BETTER than the bikes of my youth... Motorcycles of the fifties and sixties had REALLY dismal lights... Often, applying the brakes simply dimmed the headlight and taillight instead of showing a nice, bright stoplight... I'll make a post when I get mine "tweaked".
I think you're on the right track. Check eBay for "LED work lights" "LED motorcycle headlights" etc. and you'll find a load of them. The jury's still out on direct-replacement LED bulbs for the original headlights. They may be OK. Some riders are trying them now. We'll have to see. Meanwhile, I'll try the "add-on" LED off-road "work light" route.
Ride safe, and welcome to the site!
Leo in Texas
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Post by jrnyman on Aug 13, 2013 18:12:54 GMT -5
jrnyman,
I'm in the process of adding an LED headlight to my Xingyue 150 myself. I'm taking pix, and when it's done, I'll do a post on it.LED lights are "lightyears" ahead of (pun intended...) incandescent bulbs. The "legality" of them is questionable. Around my area, they are VERY common, and the police don't seem to care if they're DOT approved. Some states may have a much stricter view on them. LED's are "supposed" to be used on DC current. The vendors I got mine from (eBay) say they're OK on AC, but I personally think AC will shorten their life. I'm connecting a "bridge rectifier" on my AC line to provide DC current to the LED. You could run them off the battery, but the teensy 7 amp-hour battery has enough to deal with and stay charged. The 2 amps or so the LED draws I'd like to keep running off the factory headlight circuit which is AC. I'm firmly convinced LED's are the way to go. Check out the tips section on this site and you'll find a post "27 watts... OMG I can SEE"... True! I've posted there, along with others. LED's are MANY times brighter than incandescent bulbs, and light up the road. They can be blinding to oncoming traffic if not carefully aimed, so that must be considered. I'm currently running a pair of 35 watt Chinese headlight bulbs (direct replacement for the 18W originals). 70 watts total, and they are STILL only MARGINALLY better than the originals. Not enough to be worthwhile.I'm going to connect the new LED light to my "high-beam" switch so the original lights are "on" as usual for daylight and well-lit night riding. Then, when the "high-beam" switch is activated, the lows go out and the LED comes on. It then becomes a "useable" proper low beam. True high-beams are just not needed as the LED provides plenty of light for any speed the scoot will go. I simply felt the stock "dip-switch" as the manual calls it would be the easiest way to go from one set of lights to the other. The lights on these are truly awful... Although still BETTER than the bikes of my youth... Motorcycles of the fifties and sixties had REALLY dismal lights... Often, applying the brakes simply dimmed the headlight and taillight instead of showing a nice, bright stoplight... I'll make a post when I get mine "tweaked". I think you're on the right track. Check eBay for "LED work lights" "LED motorcycle headlights" etc. and you'll find a load of them. The jury's still out on direct-replacement LED bulbs for the original headlights. They may be OK. Some riders are trying them now. We'll have to see. Meanwhile, I'll try the "add-on" LED off-road "work light" route. Ride safe, and welcome to the site!Leo in Texas Law enforcement here seems top be very liberal/tolerant of this current "transition" period we're in with regard to everything light-related being replaced by an LED. Some are annoying, some are ridiculously used and some really need to be regulated as to where they can and can't be used due to the blinding brightness. I'll definitely watch for your updates with high anticipation. Thanks for the great info! On a related side-note, I'll share this story with you all regarding the advances in LED technology and just one of the many, many applications where they are being used to replace traditional lighting. My daughter just graduated from ASU with a degree in Sustainable Environmental Engineering, a brand new degree/program which focuses on implementing and discovering alternative methods for building that reduces our overall carbon footprint, saves the earth, reduces greenhouse gases, etc., etc. And while this sounds like it would be as much fun as listening to paint dry, it's a HUGE area of focus right now and is being given lots of attention by government and private enterprises as well. The big, big area within this vast topic is existing companies reducing their carbon footprint and taking the necessary steps to do so. They hire consultants to assess their current situation and then create a plan which will guide and direct them in the changes that need to be made. These consultants/specialists are making OBSCENE amounts of money for their expertise.... I mean O B S C E N E! Anyway, she did an internship last year with a company here in Phoenix called Monarch that specializes in retro-fitting and replacing existing outdoor lighting applications with lower cost, increased light LED alternatives.Parking lots, walkways, jogging paths, street lights, stadium lighting, and on and on and on... I'll use a recent project they did at a Phoenix ball park as an example. They replaced all of the lighting at this one particular park with LED's. From the common space lighting in bathrooms to the actual field lights and everything in between. That park's monthly electric bill shrank from $56,000 per month to $7,000. No, I didn't accidentally leave out a digit... they reduced the usage by nearly $50,000 per month!! And don't think for a second the quality or brilliance of the lighting was compromised one bit. The park is brighter than ever. They're making advances in the usage and application of LED's every single day. Anyway, just wanted to share that story. Thanks top everyone for their replies and for the warm welcome! Regards, Steve |
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Post by wilds on Aug 13, 2013 23:39:14 GMT -5
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Post by scoots on Aug 14, 2013 14:16:41 GMT -5
i was told from my local shop that HIDs are bad to putin a 50cc based scooter
if i am wrong tell meand i will buy a purple HID kit lol
but im running a 55w baja bulb so wouldnt it be the same???
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 14, 2013 14:19:34 GMT -5
The HIDs are supposed to be in the 35watt area which is considerably less than 55W.
Too much for a 50cc charging system? Donno.
Hate the blue and purples, I went with 6000K white.
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Post by jrnyman on Aug 14, 2013 18:46:47 GMT -5
The HIDs are supposed to be in the 35watt area which is considerably less than 55W. Too much for a 50cc charging system? Donno. Hate the blue and purples, I went with 6000K white. +1 I don't mind the way they look as accent lighting but for the main source of light whether it's the interior of a vehicle or the headlamps, I prefer the super-bright whites. One of my vehicles is a convertible which, of course, lacks any overhead light like a dome light. The interior lighting comes from a light installed in the rear of the front armrest and two tiny bulbs in the rear-view mirror. Suffice it to say the amount of light emitted via the stock bulbs was less than useless. However, after replacing them with super bright white LED's... well, it's a whole different story! Yesterday, I pulled the front ferring off the scooter to have a look-see at the bulbs and decided to replace the little ones with a pair of bright blue LED's I had laying around. It looks kinda cool and when combined with the lights on the mirrors and the headlamps it creates a nice red, white and blue sort of motif. Didn't even notice that fact until my wife mentioned it as I rode into the driveway last night.    Here are a couple of pics. Sorry about the first one... The camera on my phone doesn't do a very good job of dealing with glare.   |
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