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Post by mojo89 on Jul 24, 2013 11:28:23 GMT -5
-------The story:
While accelerating downhill, I reached about 40 mph. Something in the engine began rattling suddenly and slowed me down to 35 (while still going downhill). I was at 5500 km at the time. Since then, whether I'm on hills or flat ground, it doesn't rattle until I'm going at least 35, and the engine will not rev any higher once the rattling starts. Might be of note that 30 is the speed where it starts revving into higher rpms.
-------Bike's history:
I bought it brand new and rode it daily for 5 months, about 1000 km per month. Two or three times a week I ride 20 miles in 45 minutes at about 40 mph cruising speed (I know I shouldn't be giving it full throttle that long) plus daily around town riding in traffic.
I noticed the same rattling noise around 4500 km, it was softer and only started when I was going around 45 mph. I only went that fast down hills; for maybe 30 seconds at a time, I'd be revving pretty high and it would make that rattling/tapping noise. This was at full throttle.
All stock parts, regular maintenance performed religiously (oil changes, valve adjustments)
-----------What I've done so far:
Replaced the muffler, the mounting bracket was cracked, I thought it might have been rattling, but this did not fix it. Opened my cvt cover to inspect parts, nothing looked worn or out of place, but I didn't take off anything under the cvt cover except the overrunning clutch which was loose. I'm assuming it is held in place by the cover itself. During the subsequent ride after putting the cover back on, the rattling didn't start until 45 mph instead of 40, but still will not rev higher once the rattling starts. Hard to say where the sound is coming from, but if I had to guess sounds like it comes from the cvt case towards the front.
Any ideas?
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Post by devo344a on Jul 24, 2013 11:56:15 GMT -5
Might need the valves adjusted
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Post by mojo89 on Jul 24, 2013 13:14:08 GMT -5
nope, valves are at .052mm .052mm as of yesterday. Checked them when I heard the tapping noise.
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Post by prodigit on Jul 24, 2013 14:07:45 GMT -5
+1 on the valves.
I've been running mine now ~5000km, and around ~3500km I hear belt chirping. In the beginning it was only when I would go over 40MPH to 45MPH. But now it's even there when I surpass 35MPH.
I thought it was from the belt, but the belt looks as good as new, with no noticeable dust in the CVT. Also the noise seems to come from the rear right of the cvt.
I don't notice a performance loss, and aside from this issue only had my blinkers and horn stop working after a heavy downpour.
For the rest, the ATM is a true workhorse.
Try also putting it on the center stand and see if it revs higher.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jul 24, 2013 14:17:02 GMT -5
Can you wiggle the front pulley?? Crank bearings perhaps...
You may also had one of your roller weights get out of position have a look in your variator
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Post by frederick on Jul 24, 2013 17:26:34 GMT -5
Your roller weights are likely rattling. The channels the roller weights slide in are worn. It dont take much wear in the soft variator metal to cause rattling. It is mainly annoying,my tao tao started rattling a while back but still functions ok. Maybe slider weights would be quieter.
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 24, 2013 17:37:27 GMT -5
Yes, check your Variator, a guide might be broke or worn down and that will cause it to hang up and rattle metal to metal. Alleyoop
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Post by jjoshua20213 on Jul 25, 2013 5:36:47 GMT -5
Sounds like a case of cvt problems. More so the variator than the clutch. Rollers sound excessively worn or out of place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 6:11:19 GMT -5
If the rollers / sliders are being pushed outward from the force how do they rattle? Im thinking my T3 rattles in there too from day one and even continues after slider install. Happens at higher rpms.
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Post by mojo89 on Jul 25, 2013 23:29:59 GMT -5
Replaced the belt, rollers are a bit worn but still good, clutch shoes are in need of replacement soon but not horrible. The rattle doesn't start until 50 mph now(my speedometer does read a bit higher than actual speed), and I try not to go that fast anyway. My old belt seems to have been the culprit, it was a couple mm's narrower than the new one, and had a good size chunk missing. Don't know how I missed it the first time I checked.
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Post by mojo89 on Nov 17, 2013 13:03:29 GMT -5
New developements: 10500 km on the bike now, my second belt just shredded yesterday, but it's ok because I was planning on rebuilding the whole cvt system since all the parts are worn out to the max. Variator has a nice groove in it where the belt sits at high gear, causing it to fail to downshift from time to time, thus stalling the bike when I come to a stop. Clutch engages at much too low of an rpm, the pads and springs are worn so bad.
I'm thinking of purchasing an NCY brand cvt kit for about 150 bucks online, along with a small 12v impact wrench so I don't have to use tools for things they weren't meant for. Also thinking of some sliding rollers from Dr. Pulley and some 1500 rpm clutch springs. I'll update as I progress in the project.
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