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Post by needspeed on Jun 30, 2013 21:27:43 GMT -5
Hey yall I am new here cause i need some help
I have been freaking on this non starting issue for days .......
I have been trying to get this bashan peace scooter thing to styart for days
it has been sitting a while .
it had a dead battery , no spark ... I charged battery , then no spark ,
I checked spark briefly with another cdi and plug wire STill no spark
I removed stator cover, cleaned stator and reinstalled
Got some spark , it appeared kinda weak , but still sparking pretty well ( maybe still weak)
put back together , and NO LUCK
tried lots of gas , not even a chug
gas has been sitting a lil while , but , seems clear ...
Spark was still there , but not found when plug in chamber...
carb seems ok clean , maybe old fuel
air box was removed
compressiopn seem s good . good vacuum , and pressure
2012 scooter, 4200 miles
lastly just checked spark and have MAD spark fir wire to case , but minimal spark from plug ......
is this just a the plug???
( plug looks like it is new, has hardly been used)
Looking for any ideas
thank you for any advice
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Post by needspeed on Jun 30, 2013 21:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by skuttadawg on Jun 30, 2013 21:32:04 GMT -5
Gas with ethanol goes bad in  days so drain it and clean the jets by hand . Pour some Sea Foam in will also clean out the fuel system . Have you checked the valves ? |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 30, 2013 21:57:56 GMT -5
Even if your battery says its charged it may be bad. If you have a weak battery your scoot will have a hard time starting espeacially on girst startup of the season. I had to buy a new battery this season because my scoot wouldnt turn over hard enough to start. Try to start the scoot with the battery charger connected. Just dont let it run long with it connected. Let it charge for about 2 mins on 10 amp charge if your charger has it then try to start it. You should notice a stronger turnover .
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 30, 2013 22:09:12 GMT -5
Make sure you usually never charge these batteries with more than 1.5 amp trickle chargers.
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Post by needspeed on Jul 1, 2013 8:22:44 GMT -5
Hey thank for the tips Im on board with the nbad gas at the moment gonna drain it and add cleaner and fresh gas and try a new plug The battery seems to hold a little charge, cranks the scooter on it own for quite a while, seems ok to me so I have also tried two spark plugs ... the other was an old go kart plug that was still ok ...didnt try it in the engine , just to test for spark after cleaning and checking the stator , I checked both plugs and saw spark. still couldn't get it to fire while cranking I took off the spark plug wire/coil and inspected the plug boot , when taking it off I twisted plug clip connection out and seemed to find a spring and a little piece of something  it appeared to be plastic or possibly some sort of resistor or something . I cant explain it so it went coil-wire-boot connection- ?resistorz?-spring- brass plug connector anyone seen something like that ?? |
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Post by needspeed on Jul 1, 2013 8:48:11 GMT -5
heres a pic of the little unkown material either my meter is wacked or this stuff is some kinda transistor resistor whatchamacallit ... what is this stuff more importantly.... why is it there ?  Attachments:
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 1, 2013 12:23:41 GMT -5
Thats normal not shure whay its made out of though.
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Post by needspeed on Jul 1, 2013 14:36:25 GMT -5
welllll
sorry I have read and read , cant find any much in fo on plug wires/coil
and I am un familiar with them on scooters so far
so as far as I can tell it must be some type of resistor ?
ok ok ok
When I take the plug wire out form the boot and put it near engine ground, I get lots of spark from the copper center of the plug wire to the engine .
quick blueish spark with a decent arc distance .
When I twist the plug boot back on , and stick a plug in , it doesnt spark .
Oh this is with a brand new plug .
So it sure appears there is juice up to the plug boot and then doesnt make it through the boot , plug is brand new ---
Could it be not enough power to spark the plug ??
would that be the stator or maybe just plug coil ot cdi ??
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Post by scootnwinn on Jul 1, 2013 15:09:55 GMT -5
Did you get a new plug cap now that the old one fell apart. If not, are you sure all the bits are still making contact? A new plug wire cap is like $2...
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Post by progenitor04 on Jul 1, 2013 16:27:00 GMT -5
give it gas while starting it
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Post by needspeed on Jul 1, 2013 18:27:00 GMT -5
thanks guys ...
yeah apparently the plug boot had a broken resistor in it ...
I repaired it with a piece of screw ,
I cleaned the stator again , cleaned some grounds , tested for spark .......
got a little spark back .. AND got it to chug !!! , first time in a while , then -- nothing
Seems the stator or coil isnt putting out enough juice
there is this great troubleshooting guide in the tech section on these forums !!
ima gonna get on it with a test meter and tryn see if there is enough juice outta the cdi
I just found it a little whil ago
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days so drain it and clean the jets by hand . Pour some Sea Foam in will also clean out the fuel system . Have you checked the valves ?
