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Post by geh3333 on Jun 20, 2013 1:49:52 GMT -5
Exactly thats one of the problems im talking about. Not matching the head and intake manifold. Could cause airflow problems.
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2013 1:58:55 GMT -5
Yep many forget about that little tid bit and or never even know or think about it and start messing with all kinds of other things trying to find the problem.
Alleyoop
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 20, 2013 2:05:52 GMT -5
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2013 2:26:25 GMT -5
Now to fix it using a bigger Intake:
1. Take the Head Intake gasket that fits the head intake diameter
2. Put it on the Intake holding it with two bolts and screws.
3. Then get your dremel tool and trim the gasket to fit the INTAKE diameter
4. Now put the trimed gasket back on the head studs and mark around the Intake head gasket ID diameter on the head.
5. Time to do a little dremel porting on the head intake and now you have a matching head intake for your bigger intake.
Alleyoop
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Post by scootnwinn on Jun 20, 2013 8:29:03 GMT -5
You know alley read the original post there. He says basically I have some unknown thing here and I'm going to do something and spend some money just like these other guys. Altitude alone is a very important thing to consider when setting up. He needs to see what he has and make a good decision based on actual knowledge of the current situation. Buying another new carb is a pretty extreme measure to take to end up with basically the same issue, jetting and set up. I do know what I'm saying I also know he didn't say enough to make a good recommendation. So I recommended he didn't just throw parts at an unknown situation. Be good now
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Post by jerseyboy on Jun 20, 2013 8:38:59 GMT -5
[replyingto=scootnwinn]scootnwinn[/replyingto]Nobody ever likes shotgunning parts,,thats for sure....
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2013 13:45:01 GMT -5
The problem is he is does not know enough to make a good decision that is why he came on for help.
Unless he lives high in the mountains the altitude is not even in the picture and temp changes are easy to adjust for but none of those are his current problems.
I read his post as well and the WARNING LIGHT came on when he said he put in a 26mm carb.
I know carbs and motors and CVTs like the back of my hand I can hear a motor and tell you what it needs. What I did miss that was in his sig was that he has a 30mm intake and if the head intake is smaller he already has a problem with fuel and air flow being sucked in smoothly into his head. Most think dumping a gallon of fuel into the little 4 bangers will get them power and top end speed, but as you know that is not the case. Depending on how you built your motor it will only take so much fuel and air to get the most out of your motor. Go overboard and you loose power, the motors will run running on the rich side but not to their fullest potential.
He came on asking for some possible specific things he could do to fix his problem. Telling him general things is good but not much help in fixing his problem.
I used to build my own hotrods and drag race for money on the street and every sunday take it to the strip and win trophy's that they used to hand out. It was elimination depending on how many cars where in your class your car took a beating.
I read a lot of what some say they have on it and the speeds they say they are getting and I sit here and laugh knowing they do not know what they are talking about or lying through their teeth. I have been doing this for DECADES not a few years, Just a couple of days ago on one of the other threads guy put up a VIDEO of what his motor was doing. I just responded once explained what was happening and told him exactly what his carb problem was and how to fix it. He fixed what I told him his problem was and he came back and thanked me.
These carbs on the scoot motors are really simple and do the job pretty well. I can setup a CV CARB to make the diaphgram rise fast and get instant quick rpm responses when you blip the throttle. I am on here to help IF I can, some I do not even attempt to respond but only because the poor soul cannot even turn a screwdriver. And on situations like that he needs to have someone else do the work that at least knows where the spark plug is on a motor because he will mess it up worst than it already is.
Have a good day and
Ride Safe
Alleyoop
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Post by doublert on Jun 20, 2013 15:51:16 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I think that intake is too big, and I don't think when my friend put it on, sized it up to match the ports. When we put it on, it was extremely tight, and right near touching the cross mount thing.
When I give it throttle too take off, it sputters a bit, once it starts moving about 2-5mph it smoothes out, and when I hit the throttle a little harder on take offs, it doesnt sputter. Thats why I thought it may need upjetting, plus having the filter and exhaust.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jun 20, 2013 17:40:50 GMT -5
Looks like once again alley knows best good luck with your order and the port and polish. Certainly don't waste time checking to see what is already in there just order a bunch a stuff like a amateur. Alley gas heard your engine and knows what it needs he alone possesses the GY6 know how and he is always right. It's amazing such an officious narcissist is a moderator here...
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2013 21:34:10 GMT -5
Looks like once again alley knows best good luck with your order and the port and polish. Certainly don't waste time checking to see what is already in there just order a bunch a stuff like a amateur. Alley gas heard your engine and knows what it needs he alone possesses the GY6 know how and he is always right. It's amazing such an officious narcissist is a moderator here... MY MY MY, whats the matter afraid to use the simple meanings of those words. I was asked to be a moderator, anyone on this forum can complain to the owners and or put it up for a VOTE. And yes he is an Amateur but he deserves to be told some facts and details not BLUE SKY STUFF from people that do not know how to tie their own shoes. Its amazing, just because I happen to know scoots and how to diagnose and fix them the jealous types come out of the woodwork and rag on me. And no I did not hear his motor, just how he described the problem. BUT Scootnwinn, your take was every motor is different and what works for one does not work for others(REAL INTUITIVE STUFF... HEAVY MAN) good info that will fix his problem 1, 2, 3. Alleyoop |
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Post by doublert on Jun 20, 2013 21:50:59 GMT -5
[replyingto=alleyoop]alleyoop[/replyingto]Hey, thanks for all you guys help. When it comes to mechanics, im fairly decent with a wrench, a gy6 150 scoot stuff is different from my 1992 Mustang 5.0 convertible that runs mid 12's in the 1/4 mile.
I've just been trying to learn everything I can about my scoot along the way. My local scooter repair guy told me today that the NCY 30mm intake is causing my take off sputtering problem, I'm sure its causing the air in there not to move smoothly, when we put it on we didn't port match anything or use a dremel either. He said if I put my stock intake back on, it will most likely cure my sputter problem.
I didn't mean to cause any arguments.
Alley, and the rest of you guys, I really appreciate you helping me and the others out. I'm still learning...Hey, at least I know how to do all my CVT work, and belt and stuff....
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Post by gunnyradrider on Jun 20, 2013 22:10:05 GMT -5
Looks like once again alley knows best good luck with your order and the port and polish. Certainly don't waste time checking to see what is already in there just order a bunch a stuff like a amateur. Alley gas heard your engine and knows what it needs he alone possesses the GY6 know how and he is always right. It's amazing such an officious narcissist is a moderator here... MY MY MY, whats the matter afraid to use the simple meanings of those words. I was asked to be a moderator, anyone on this forum can complain to the owners and or put it up for a VOTE. And yes he is an Amateur but he deserves to be told some facts and details not BLUE SKY STUFF from people that do not know how to tie their own shoes. Its amazing, just because I happen to know scoots and how to diagnose and fix them the jealous types come out of the woodwork and rag on me. And no I did not hear his motor, just how he described the problem. BUT Scootnwinn, your take was every motor is different and what works for one does not work for others(REAL INTUITIVE STUFF... HEAVY MAN) good info that will fix his problem 1, 2, 3. Alleyoop I just joined today but if this is whats its like here im not gonna stay |
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2013 22:11:08 GMT -5
Good to hear Doublert,
Its ok I can take the heat and give it out as well. But on every forum you will find different folks with different strokes. Hope just matching the intake to the head port will fix your problem. Or before you tear into the head you can just put on the Original Intake back on, the 26 should still fit the inlet side of the intake and check it and see if it gets rid of the problem.
Alleyoop
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Post by jerseyboy on Jun 20, 2013 22:12:59 GMT -5
[replyingto=]Guest[/replyingto]Oh stop it,,there are keyboard rambos,commandos on every forum..please stay awhile,,grow some skin on your back brother,its good times here. Tommy  |
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2013 23:00:36 GMT -5
MY MY MY, whats the matter afraid to use the simple meanings of those words. I was asked to be a moderator, anyone on this forum can complain to the owners and or put it up for a VOTE. And yes he is an Amateur but he deserves to be told some facts and details not BLUE SKY STUFF from people that do not know how to tie their own shoes. Its amazing, just because I happen to know scoots and how to diagnose and fix them the jealous types come out of the woodwork and rag on me. And no I did not hear his motor, just how he described the problem. BUT Scootnwinn, your take was every motor is different and what works for one does not work for others(REAL INTUITIVE STUFF... HEAVY MAN) good info that will fix his problem 1, 2, 3. Alleyoop I just joined today but if this is whats its like here im not gonna stay If you think that is so bad you should see some other forums. I mean talk about filth coming out of their mouths and calling people all kinds of real nasty names. This is extremely MILD HANK but it is your choice. Lets see you quit this forum within the 1st week it started and you came back but could not use your old logon "inuyasha" so you came on as HANK and on the old SD I lost count after you quit 4 times. This is getting old HANK, really you need to grow up. Alleyoop |
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