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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 10:07:12 GMT -5
[replyingto=millsc]millsc[/replyingto]Yeah, it was very rough experimenting with different methods trying to get the gear off. I didn't realize it would be this difficult or I would've just waited a day to go to the machine shop. Unfortunately my mail comes late, at around 2:30p.m. and the machine shop closes early, I'm not sure how early but at 3:30 when I took my gears out they didn't answer the phone. So I went ahead with all the DIY methods possible.
I've tried vices, a bench vice, hammers, blocks of wood, anything to get the gear off. Finally the hammer and two blocks of wood did the trick, but as I did that the nylon washer I forgot to take off flew into the grass somewhere and my brother has yet to mow the yard so it's long gone.
So I had to pay a bunch of money, first for a ride to autozone for the gear puller, then to Ace Hardware to find a nylon washer.
Now I'm gonna have to pay another $10 just to get a ride to the machine shop...
"Nothing is ever easy" - Zeddicus Zuul Zorander
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 11:46:30 GMT -5
Okay, so I called around and of course nobody was willing to give me a ride no matter how much money I offered.
So I biked all the way across town to the machine shop and finally had my gears pressed. I asked them how much it would cost and they said don't worry about it, but I was all "shut up and take my money" and gave the guy $5 for some beer after work.
It was about an hour there and back. Damn, am I dripping sweat...
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Post by hank on Jun 18, 2013 11:55:10 GMT -5
Okay, so I called around and of course nobody was willing to give me a ride no matter how much money I offered. So I biked all the way across town to the machine shop and finally had my gears pressed. I asked them how much it would cost and they said don't worry about it, but I was all "shut up and take my money" and gave the guy $5 for some beer after work. It was about an hour there and back. Damn, am I dripping sweat... Hi Glad to see your making head way Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 13:48:13 GMT -5
[replyingto=hank]hank[/replyingto]Thanks, Hank.
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 13:57:53 GMT -5
So after getting the gear pressed at the shop, I barely rested and went straight to putting my bike back together. First I put the gear box back together and realized I forgot the nylon washer so I tried taking it apart, but the shaft was stuck to the bearing so I pulled and pulled and finally got it out, unfortunately the bearing came with it. So I had to pry the bearing off gently and slowly (so as not to break it) just in order to put the nylon washer on. Then I put the gearbox all together and tried turning the tire shaft to see if it would move... It wouldn't. I tried really hard and finally got it to move a few degrees but otherwise it was impossible to move. So I opened it back up and noticed my sharpie mark was on the wrong side of the big gear. So I just flipped that around and put it back together, turned the shaft, both shafts turned! With ease. So I put my wheel, muffler, clutch, cvt cover, etc. all back on and started it up. Put it on the center stand and revved the engine and watched that tire turn. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. I took it for a test drive to the post office and picked up my mail. Still no package from Absolutely Scooters even though I ordered from them on the same day as I ordered from scrappys AND they're only located an hour away from me. If there was some mistake and my package gets delivered today then I might continue buying from them, but if not this is going to be the last time I ever order from Absolutely Scooters. I ordered the damn clutch spring from them last wednesday because they normally ship the thing really fast and it only takes one day to get here because the shop is located an hour away... But it's almost been a week now. I forgot I completely stripped my gear oil drain bolt and the only thing holding it on was loc-tite. So I'm gonna have to do something about that... For some reason it's not leaking out from anywhere I'm almost thinking of plugging the hole with JB-Weld since gear oil doesn't have to be changed very often, then I could just drill out the hole in a few thousand miles. I don't know. I'll figure something out...
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Post by scootnwinn on Jun 18, 2013 14:17:53 GMT -5
If they are only an hour away why didn't you just go pick it up?? Did you call them??
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Post by hank on Jun 18, 2013 14:18:48 GMT -5
So after getting the gear pressed at the shop, I barely rested and went straight to putting my bike back together. First I put the gear box back together and realized I forgot the nylon washer so I tried taking it apart, but the shaft was stuck to the bearing so I pulled and pulled and finally got it out, unfortunately the bearing came with it. So I had to pry the bearing off gently and slowly (so as not to break it) just in order to put the nylon washer on. Then I put the gearbox all together and tried turning the tire shaft to see if it would move... It wouldn't. I tried really hard and finally got it to move a few degrees but otherwise it was impossible to move. So I opened it back up and noticed my sharpie mark was on the wrong side of the big gear. So I just flipped that around and put it back together, turned the shaft, both shafts turned! With ease. So I put my wheel, muffler, clutch, cvt cover, etc. all back on and started it up. Put it on the center stand and revved the engine and watched that tire turn. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. I took it for a test drive to the post office and picked up my mail. Still no package from Absolutely Scooters even though I ordered from them on the same day as I ordered from scrappys AND they're only located an hour away from me. If there was some mistake and my package gets delivered today then I might continue buying from them, but if not this is going to be the last time I ever order from Absolutely Scooters. I ordered the damn clutch spring from them last wednesday because they normally ship the thing really fast and it only takes one day to get here because the shop is located an hour away... But it's almost been a week now. I forgot I completely stripped my gear oil drain bolt and the only thing holding it on was loc-tite. So I'm gonna have to do something about that... For some reason it's not leaking out from anywhere I'm almost thinking of plugging the hole with JB-Weld since gear oil doesn't have to be changed very often, then I could just drill out the hole in a few thousand miles. I don't know. I'll figure something out... Hi Outstanding Happy to see your scoot is running once again If it was me i would try and retap the gear oil bolt hole or try a thread insert first before the JB weld Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 14:56:11 GMT -5
[replyingto=scootnwinn]scootnwinn[/replyingto]Well, honestly I didn't have any faith in keeping up with traffic going all the way to Elgin, and if I wanted to take a drive I'd probably be able to find a closer scooter shop. It's just that I've shopped Absolutely in the past and it takes a day or two for them to ship normally, but right after they ship it I get the package the next day. So far they haven't updated my order or given me a tracking number. If I liked calling people I'd give them a ring, but I'm just gonna sit back and let things work themselves out (unless I don't get the package in which case I'll call them). The only things I ordered were an Intake Manifold (sans the PAIR nipple), a C-clip for my kickstarter (mine comes loose sometimes because I stretched it too much when replacing my kickstarter), and a 1500rpm torque spring.
Since changing my gears I can maintain 35mph uphill and I can do 51mph on flats. So next time I probably will just go out of town to buy scooter parts rather than order online like I've had to for so long.
Thanks for the support Hank! I'm pretty impressed with the gears. My max speed was 45, now I'm hitting speeds just over 50 which means I can FINALLY go to my bank without fear of traffic. Not to mention other roads that had me afraid of maintaining speeds on which I've never even traveled on! I may finally be able to get my L-class license way over in woodstock!
So far so good with my drain bolt, it's not leaking yet, but I think I will just go buy a tap rather than waste money on a temporary solution. That's a very good idea. Thanks, again Hank!
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Post by hank on Jun 18, 2013 15:00:17 GMT -5
Well, honestly I didn't have any faith in keeping up with traffic going all the way to Elgin, and if I wanted to take a drive I'd probably be able to find a closer scooter shop. It's just that I've shopped Absolutely in the past and it takes a day or two for them to ship normally, but right after they ship it I get the package the next day. So far they haven't updated my order or given me a tracking number. If I liked calling people I'd give them a ring, but I'm just gonna sit back and let things work themselves out (unless I don't get the package in which case I'll call them). The only things I ordered were an Intake Manifold (sans the PAIR nipple), a C-clip for my kickstarter (mine comes loose sometimes because I stretched it too much when replacing my kickstarter), and a 1500rpm torque spring. Since changing my gears I can maintain 35mph uphill and I can do 51mph on flats. So next time I probably will just go out of town to buy scooter parts rather than order online like I've had to for so long. Thanks for the support Hank! I'm pretty impressed with the gears. My max speed was 45, now I'm hitting speeds just over 50 which means I can FINALLY go to my bank without fear of traffic. Not to mention other roads that had me afraid of maintaining speeds on which I've never even traveled on! I may finally be able to get my L-class license way over in woodstock! So far so good with my drain bolt, it's not leaking yet, but I think I will just go buy a tap rather than waste money on a temporary solution. That's a very good idea. Thanks, again Hank! Hi Outstanding Congratulations and your most welcome ;D Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 18, 2013 16:52:34 GMT -5
This is what you need to fix the stripped tranny drain plug: Alleyoop
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 17:34:50 GMT -5
[replyingto=alleyoop]alleyoop[/replyingto]Thanks, Alley. I'll try looking for something like that at the hardware store and keep y'all posted. If I can't find it I'll probably just order it online because the bolt is holding up for now. I'm honestly surprised the vibration hasn't made it pop off...
Back when I first got the scooter I was very unfamiliar with a wrench and I somehow wound up tightening the drain bolt rather then loosening it and ended up stripping the hole almost completely. I immediately doused the bolt in locktite and held the bolt there until it dried, then when I put gear oil I got no leaks so I just left it like that and forgot entirely about it until now. Now that I'm more adept with the mechanics of "lefty loosy righty tighty" I believe it's time to fix it properly! Off I go, to Ace Hardware~
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Post by doublert on Jun 18, 2013 17:52:48 GMT -5
[replyingto=lykos23]lykos23[/replyingto]Dang man, sounds like you need some new friends? You said they all want to charge you 10$ for a ride? That's ridiculous!! I have friends that would drive me 18 miles to the nearest beer store, and all they asked for was a few cold ones. Remember that song "You find out who your friends are" ? Real sorry that you had so much trouble, I had my NCY 15*36 gears put in a few weeks ago, which was not as easy as I thought, Thanks to that 75 pound industrial vise I bought for 50$ 4 years ago, it could have been a lot more trouble. Hope you get your scoot rolling soon!!
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Post by domindart on Jun 18, 2013 17:54:30 GMT -5
Here's hoping your luck will turn for the better and You will get the scoot back on the road and running tip top!
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 18:33:27 GMT -5
[replyingto=alleyoop]alleyoop[/replyingto]They wanted $40 for the helicoil kit! $40!!! On Amazon it cost $22, and your Permacoil is even cheaper. I'll order that and see how it goes. I would love to just buy the kit from Ace and repair it right now, but that's a lot of extra money I don't have to spend.
Definitely need some new friends! They're all ripoffs. Sadly all my real friends live far away or go to college far away now. I'm going to have to buy me one of those vices if I ever have to swap gears again. Bicycling all the way across town was not very fun. Not to mention my GPS malfunctioning leaving me circling a road for 10 minutes trying to find the place... Thankfully my scooter is up and running now and doing phenomenal on speed runs. I've never gone over the speed limit on a 45mph road before, and I'm happy to have finally maxxed out my speedometer.
Thanks, Domindart! All I need now is my koso variator, my 1.5k torque spring, my new carburetor jets and I'll be set. Putting a sock over my air filter stopped all the popping and there's no backfiring, but I still can't wait for my carb jets to finally get here so I can take that dumb problem-solving sock off of my air filter!
And my luck seems to be getting much better. The guy at Autozone said it was no problem that I broke the gear puller, it's under warranty so I got all $107.50 back.
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Post by sailracer on Jun 18, 2013 18:38:23 GMT -5
They wanted $40 for the helicoil kit! $40!!! On Amazon it cost $22, and your Permacoil is even cheaper. I'll order that and see how it goes. I would love to just buy the kit from Ace and repair it right now, but that's a lot of extra money I don't have to spend. Definitely need some new friends! They're all ripoffs. Sadly all my real friends live far away or go to college far away now. I'm going to have to buy me one of those vices if I ever have to swap gears again. Bicycling all the way across town was not very fun. Not to mention my GPS malfunctioning leaving me circling a road for 10 minutes trying to find the place... Thankfully my scooter is up and running now and doing phenomenal on speed runs. I've never gone over the speed limit on a 45mph road before, and I'm happy to have finally maxxed out my speedometer. Thanks, Domindart! All I need now is my koso variator, my 1.5k torque spring, my new carburetor jets and I'll be set. Putting a sock over my air filter stopped all the popping and there's no backfiring, but I still can't wait for my carb jets to finally get here so I can take that dumb problem-solving sock off of my air filter! And my luck seems to be getting much better. The guy at Autozone said it was no problem that I broke the gear puller, it's under warranty so I got all $107.50 back. Thats great! I really did'nt want to beleive they would kep your money. Kind of restores my faith in humanity ;D
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