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Post by lykos23 on Jun 17, 2013 15:14:50 GMT -5
[replyingto=salracer]sailracer[/replyingto]The gears came in the mail! I'm trying not to rush anything, but I am excited to get these gears in. Drained my gear oil, now I'm waiting for the bike to cool down. Took the clutch bell off, but the clutch itself is too hot to touch.
Let's hope I can figure this out!
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 17, 2013 16:38:14 GMT -5
So I put the gear in the bench vice and hoped for the best. I wedged it between two bricks so I could push the gear out and I turned it. I turned it slowly little by little until it was really hard to turn. Then I turned it just a little bit more and I heard it go "pop!" and I said "yes!" as I thought the gear came off. I turned it just a little bit more and then the entire bench vice fell apart.
I snapped my grandpa's heavy duty bench vice that was bolted to a big block of wood in half...
Now I'm off to autozone to try that "Gear puller" thing.
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 17, 2013 17:28:17 GMT -5
And the gear puller snapped too... Now I owe autozone $107. At this point I'm ready to strangle a kitten. All I wanted was for the post office to give me my package just a few hours earlier, that's why I put my mail on hold, just so I could get to the machine shop before they close. Well, now I can't. They're closed.
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Post by sailracer on Jun 17, 2013 17:36:59 GMT -5
:'(Bummer! Maybe they won,t charge you. I highly doubt it was a mechanic's personal tool They can afford a loaner. About grandpa's vice... Now that's a different story BTW< I have owned and used many-agear puller from 2" up to 14", and have modified a few to make them bbigger, longer etc. Only large pullers cost that much.Unless it was hydraulic, in which case you're paying for a pump too.Don't let em rape ya
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 17, 2013 18:05:29 GMT -5
[replyingto=salracer]sailracer[/replyingto]Nope, wasn't hydraulic. Just a standard 2ton gear puller. I rented it and now I might not get my money back because I broke it...
Well, good news. With two 2x6 boards and a hammer I got the gear off. Now I just have to get it back on...
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 17, 2013 18:48:23 GMT -5
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 17, 2013 20:19:56 GMT -5
I went to Ace Hardware and found some nylon washers there... I hope they work D8
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Post by scootnwinn on Jun 17, 2013 20:30:44 GMT -5
The original one is still in your grass.
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 17, 2013 20:45:38 GMT -5
[replyingto=scootnwinn]scootnwinn[/replyingto]It's dirty now, I'm not using that. Ew.
But anyways... I now have my bike all taken apart in the garage and I can't get the gear back on. So tomorrow I'm going to go to that machine shop and see about getting it pressed on. It was easy enough banging the gear off, but I'm afraid of ruining the thing banging it back on.
One thing I forgot to take note of was the gear angles... I guess I'll try lining them up and then marking them with a sharpie to figure out how they go back in. This is by far the most tedious thing I've ever done to my scooter. Gods it better be worth it...
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Post by triker on Jun 18, 2013 0:22:17 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about the broken vice and gear puller. If you don't get them started straight they will never go back on. Probably best to let someone with the proper equipment do it.
Roy
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 18, 2013 0:40:06 GMT -5
HAHAHAHA, man oh man the things people go through. Here is a TRICK OF THE TRADE we always used. Heat up the GEAR in a 400 degreee stove and stick the shaft in the freezer the gear will just about slip right onto the shaft. But PLEASE MAKE sure you wear gloves because the gear is HOT.
To take a gear off with a little torch you just go around the gear heating it up AND IT DOES NOT have to be RED HOT just hot and it will slip off real easy. Alleyoop
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Post by sailracer on Jun 18, 2013 1:14:57 GMT -5
HAHAHAHA, man oh man the things people go through. Here is a TRICK OF THE TRADE we always used. Heat up the GEAR in a 400 degreee stove and stick the shaft in the freezer the gear will just about slip right onto the shaft. But PLEASE MAKE sure you wear gloves because the gear is HOT. To take a gear off with a little torch you just go around the gear heating it up AND IT DOES NOT have to be RED HOT just hot and it will slip off real easy. Alleyoop Once again with the Old-School methods :DI used to use dry ice to shrink bushings all the time.(did'nt occur to me to suggest it, though, ;Dgood call).Seems to me that with all the technology available,and america losing many industrial jobs, that old way common sense things are gradually going away with all of us older guys. I guess it's our duty to pass it on.
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 5:23:24 GMT -5
[replyingto=alleyoop]alleyoop[/replyingto] I tried with the shaft in the freezer, but I didn't torch up the gear. I'll try this again and if it doesn't work I'll just go to that darn machine shop. Thanks Alley. For laughing at my pain and for the advice.
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Post by lykos23 on Jun 18, 2013 6:31:06 GMT -5
YEah... So I froze the shaft for two hours, then baked the gear for 25 minutes at 420. It still wouldn't fit together. I wailed on the thing with a hammer and it wouldn't go in. D8
I guess now I wait for a ride to the machine shop... There goes another $10.
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Post by millsc on Jun 18, 2013 8:12:50 GMT -5
wow seems rough, i just take it to the machine shop the guy takes a couple minutes to press on and off and i put it back in easy as pie
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