roller AND slidders or slidders alone?

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roller AND slidders or slidders alone? by: jeepsteve92xj - May 8, 2013 17:57:06 GMT -5

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Post by jeepsteve92xj on May 8, 2013 17:57:06 GMT -5

I saw millsc's post about mixing 9.5 and 10gram sliders.

MY Znen has a grabby clutch - I was shutting off the motor at stop lights today cause it was yanking the scooter too much.

The stock original rollers seem to have flat spots, but the grabby-ness is due to over 17+ gram rollers. 102grams total.

The belt was even squealing. Gates power belt 835 x 20 I think

I have a set of sliders from scrappydog, that all weigh about 9.75 to 9.79.if we round to 10, and the rollers to 17, I could mix and have an average of 13.5 grams. Mixing rollers and slider... Dont know if that's wise...

I need to get closer to reasonable so I can ride, and order a new set.

Would the 10s be too light?
hmmm.
I am trying to make a quick decision and get it back together before dark.

2008 Xingyue ITA 150.
HID modified headlight.
13gr 20x15 Dr. Pulley Sliders.
139db horn,
7100+ miles,
jets: Ecotrons EFI.
Pod filter and 1" header and muffler.
11-pole stator upgrade.
Manual fuel valve.
2008 Znen XY150T-F
1" header and shorty 'muffler'.
stock 12-pole stator.
pod filter.
Mikuni fuel pump.
122(?) jet - I don't recall, I'll have to look where I wrote it on top of the carb.
pics of my Xingyue and Znen:

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roller AND slidders or slidders alone? by: jeepsteve92xj - May 8, 2013 19:13:11 GMT -5

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Post by jeepsteve92xj on May 8, 2013 19:13:11 GMT -5

The Znen has 12" wheels - just like this:
valleyscootersdealers.com/MOTORINORIVIERA.html

Riding it while still working on the Xingyue.
The tach I am using is an implement type tach + hour meter, and doesn't react quickly. Not sure it is set correctly either.

If it is correct, I was at 8500rpm at 45mph. Idle looks like 1500 to 2200.

I put the 9.8 sliders in and took it for a short ride.

Lots of variables and plenty of projects happening in my driveway.

2008 Xingyue ITA 150.
HID modified headlight.
13gr 20x15 Dr. Pulley Sliders.
139db horn,
7100+ miles,
jets: Ecotrons EFI.
Pod filter and 1" header and muffler.
11-pole stator upgrade.
Manual fuel valve.
2008 Znen XY150T-F
1" header and shorty 'muffler'.
stock 12-pole stator.
pod filter.
Mikuni fuel pump.
122(?) jet - I don't recall, I'll have to look where I wrote it on top of the carb.
pics of my Xingyue and Znen:

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roller AND slidders or slidders alone? by: rockynv - May 8, 2013 22:06:48 GMT -5

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Post by rockynv on May 8, 2013 22:06:48 GMT -5

It is a balancing act. I went with the Hoca Variator with the standard 12 gram rollers when I had my 150 and it was prefect.

Clutch engaging at idle is either too high an idle, rollers too heavy or clutch spings too weak allowing the clutch shoes to engage early.

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roller AND slidders or slidders alone? by: jeepsteve92xj - May 9, 2013 7:43:17 GMT -5

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Post by jeepsteve92xj on May 9, 2013 7:43:17 GMT -5

Rode to work with the 9.8's, Nice traffic, very short stops, but not as grabby. Otherwise the rode seems exactly the same. speedo tops out at 60mph, I forgot to turn on my GPS, so I dont know what my top speed was. Yesterday it was just under 50mph by GPS, and 60 on the speedo. 8400RPM on the tach/hour meter.
This is the tach I am using - I think it is more ideal for generators and mowers - stuff that runs a constant speed all the time.
www.amazon.com/Tachometer-Kawasaki-Motorcycle-Generator-Snowmobile/dp/B0049IFX56/ref=pd_sim_sbs_indust_2/183-3947756-9889960

For sure time to swap out carbs and get a better exhaust.

2008 Xingyue ITA 150.
HID modified headlight.
13gr 20x15 Dr. Pulley Sliders.
139db horn,
7100+ miles,
jets: Ecotrons EFI.
Pod filter and 1" header and muffler.
11-pole stator upgrade.
Manual fuel valve.
2008 Znen XY150T-F
1" header and shorty 'muffler'.
stock 12-pole stator.
pod filter.
Mikuni fuel pump.
122(?) jet - I don't recall, I'll have to look where I wrote it on top of the carb.
pics of my Xingyue and Znen:

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Post by jeepsteve92xj on May 8, 2013 17:57:06 GMT -5

Post by tvnacman on May 8, 2013 18:49:33 GMT -5

Post by jeepsteve92xj on May 8, 2013 19:13:11 GMT -5

Post by xxwoodmanxx on May 8, 2013 21:05:02 GMT -5

Post by rockynv on May 8, 2013 22:06:48 GMT -5

Post by jeepsteve92xj on May 9, 2013 7:43:17 GMT -5

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