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Post by spandi on Jul 22, 2014 14:05:36 GMT -5
Anybody have luck with finding parts for these bikes? I was thinking to pick up a set of brake pads/shoes just to have around. I too, would like to know this... I am considering purchasing one, despite the possible pitfalls, but my main concern is parts availability at this point. A google search turned up zilch! Thanks in advance! parts.powersportsbest.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=mc-05-127&x=29&y=15
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 23, 2014 0:41:45 GMT -5
That is the problem with that bike no parts to be had.
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Post by sunsport on Aug 9, 2014 10:10:38 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your sad luck Prodigit... I just purchased several of these bikes at a great price, and I am just now trying to build up my demo unit. I have read this entire 16 page thread and hoping that some owners are still reading it. I have a fair background and have built at least 20 Chinese scooters, primarily 150cc models, including a 150cc Kandi Spider model SL-150T-27 trike. I paid $2100 for it and thought it was a great deal, and it was, except that it came completely knocked down. I had to build everything including the suspension, steering, interior, etc. There were no instructions so I contacted the factory who gave me a link to a youtube video they shot, at the factory, showing two workers assembling one from start to finish. It was in fast motion, so only 9:43 minutes. I would watch ten seconds, pause, build for 45 minutes, watch another ten seconds. This took two full days but it was fun, and we still drive it around Salt Lake City nearly every day. If I was driving a Ferrari, I wouldn't get as much attention as this thing gets.. it's nuts. Anyway, I mention all this because as tough as that assembly was, the video was exactly what I needed. We need to ask Roketa (and all importers), to demand an assembly video from the factory for each model. Here is the link if anyone is interested in seeing how one factory is doing it right:
After reading through this thread, I have a few questions:
1. How is it best to get the throttle cable/needle back to the carb? Should I remove the fake radiator?
2. There still seems to be some question as to the correct spacers, and the order to place them on the axle. Does anyone have a picture of their correctly assembled axle? Is it unanimous that there is one spacer that should be left out of this assembly?
3. Prodigit gave us great and exhausting information regarding different sprockets. I would like to purchase a 36T or 34T rear for mine, but I didn't see any mention regarding a supplier.. where are you getting them? Is there a part number? Do you know the chain size?
4. Any tips that will help me avoid the usual assembly, then dis-assembly because I did something in the wrong order?
This is a great thread and I hope there are still some of you willing to chime in! PS, if you are interested in a good price. I have several, new in the crate. Colors are Black, Red, & yellow. (blue is no longer available). Cost is $780.00 F.O.B. Los Angeles. Shipping is about $150 to $200 depending on your address.
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Post by autismshawn on Aug 13, 2014 19:28:44 GMT -5
I just bought my first scooter, a Znen 150cc. Riding has been great but when I went to fuel up the gas cap won't come up. After more careful review, it appears as though it is bolted down. I have no experience with Chinese scoots so I'm wondering what the heck is going on. Any ideas?
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Post by sunsport on Sept 3, 2014 3:03:13 GMT -5
Shawn, not familiar with the Znen 150. Can you post some pictures of the fuel cap area? PS, anyone know how to reach Prodigit??
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Post by prodigit on Jun 13, 2015 1:57:34 GMT -5
Sorry guys, I was out of town for a year or two. No idea about any other scooters than the Roketa MC-05-127. I just called Roketa Texas, and they sent me a new Sprocket adapter with bearing. Charged me a ridiculous $50 + $12.50 shipping (~$75); now it turns out I lost the sprockets, so I have to re-order them. I will probably work on the sprocket adapter soon. Turns out that the bearings break from tightening the chain too much. The chain needs to have more than 1" slack, as the swingarm needs to have sufficient chain length to have the rear suspension work. I'm probably going for a 33T rear sprocket this time; but in the mean time, I need to get married (lol, in 2 weeks), so if you don't hear from me for a while, it'll be because the miss is taking more time than the bike does!
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Post by dmart101 on Feb 17, 2017 1:00:21 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a engine swap for this motorcycle? perhaps maybe a 150cc pit bike engine with a manual clutch.
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Post by kyleshonk on Sept 10, 2018 8:33:56 GMT -5
Is there anyone still on this thread that can help me out!? Just bought a used yx127cf for $500, thought I was getting a good deal.. repaired the carb and replaced the battery, had it running good and put around 100miles on it before it starting having idle issues. Now I can't get it to stay running or idle at all. I've replaced the carb with a PZ19, installed a new fuel filter and new spark plug and I'm at a loss. The new carb is clean and functioning right as far as I can tell, I believe the valves are holding compression as well, I could definitely use some advice if available. Has anyone went through any similar issues and also where or how do I find parts.. Thanks in advance!
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Post by pistonguy on Sept 11, 2018 8:06:56 GMT -5
Is there anyone still on this thread that can help me out!? Just bought a used yx127cf for $500, thought I was getting a good deal.. repaired the carb and replaced the battery, had it running good and put around 100miles on it before it starting having idle issues. Now I can't get it to stay running or idle at all. I've replaced the carb with a PZ19, installed a new fuel filter and new spark plug and I'm at a loss. The new carb is clean and functioning right as far as I can tell, I believe the valves are holding compression as well, I could definitely use some advice if available. Has anyone went through any similar issues and also where or how do I find parts.. Thanks in advance! Ill sure try How many total miles on her. can you take a picture of the motor so maybe we can cross over some parts for you. Confirm 100% she is getting fuel and spark.. You should highly consider renting or borrowing a Compression tester from the local parts stores.
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Post by cyborg55 on Sept 11, 2018 8:14:28 GMT -5
It could be as simple as turning up the idle adjustment on the new carb if you didn't do that yet,,and if that symptom appeared right after you changed it
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Post by prodigit on Mar 31, 2024 22:20:09 GMT -5
Bin gone for 10 years now. My Chinese clone was sold to someone else. I ended up with a Honda Grom clone, and by accident found this thread again.
For rear sprockets, go to rebelgears.com.
I wanted to buy a grom, but the $5k +dealer fees was too much. Last time I remembered, the groms were sold for $3k, which was too much. Now that I finally can afford $3k, they went up by $2k. I've also looked at a Z125, and a binelli 135cc from clone, but ended up sacrificing for a Condor X-Pro 150.
Maybe a repeat with this bike, but at least it got 5 gears and is a 150cc instead of a 125cc.
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Post by prodigit on Sept 1, 2024 19:47:01 GMT -5
Reread the thread, way down memory lane. It's over 10 years ago, and since then, I've bought a cbr300r, a Yamaha FZ07, back down to an X-Pro Vader 150, and now a Lifan Xpect 200.
The 127cc bike on this thread, was in many ways the predecessor to the Vader 125, that's for sale right now. The Vader 125, Vader (or Condor)150, Lifan Xpect 200, Raven, magician, TEB7 or Hawk 250 (229cc) are all pushrod engines, with a single ohc valve setup, that allows those engines to run higher rpms.
All these engines have higher torque than HP figures. They are Honda clone engines that are made for industrial applications like power generators, pumps, or coolers. They're made to run below 5k rpm, but the SOHC allows for higher rpm than is efficient.
All of the above mentioned bikes top out roughly between 60-70mph. Bigger engine bikes also have larger frames limiting their top speed (more wind resistance).
Thus a Vader 125, or Roketa MC05 127 may not accelerate as fast as the Lifan X-pect or hawk 250, but they still can reach similar top speeds under ideal conditions.
The Roketa MC05 127 was the first real Chinese motorcycle I ever bought, and learned from, built, and modded. Since then, all the above bikes I've rode, modded and worked on.
I also learned what was needed, to gather a decent $250-500 toolbox of tools and parts to work on these bikes. Here's the toolbox with all items you'll NEED to buy to build these Chinese bikes:
1- You'll need 2 metric wrench sets. One standard (with ratchet wrench if possible), one mini wrench set for hard to reach areas.
2- you'll need to buy a bolt, nut and washer variety set box. Metric, between ~5mm to 14mm. Additionally a screw set, and nylon washer set (for the body panels).
3- ratchet wrench with sockets (6-25mm)
4- a tube of blue loctite (should last you 2 bikes)
5- a can of black plastidip, a can of Rust-Oleum black high temp paint (600-2000F), and a can of engine enamel (transparent). The Rust-Oleum black paint is for engine and exhaust parts, or metallic parts that look like they can rust. The plastidip is for metallic parts of the frame, bolts, that don't get hot. Also for the chain. The enamel is for parts you want to keep the original color of (like chrome, shiny metal) that doesn't get hot.
6- a tube of Lucas Lithium grease for the chain.
7- a tube of Lucas TB zinc break-in oil for the first 3 oil changes.
8- a gas canister
9- flathead screwdrivers, Philips head screwdrivers of different sizes, an Allen wrench set
10- feeler gauges for the valve adjustment
11- a scissors car jack
Items you may want:
12- electric screwdriver, USB-C high torque, with bit sets
13- 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 socket conversion adapter
14- flexible drill extension hex shank
15- funnel (engine oil)
16- some generic brackets (metal pieces with holes drilled in)
17- syringe and bearing grease (for bearings), use small screwdriver or oil seal hooks to remove sealed bearings rubber seal, to add grease.
18- 100pcs zip ties
19- electric corded drill, angle grinder, metal file (round and flat)
20- metric thread tap,
21- torque wrench adapter
22- chain breaker
23- tool bag
24- motorcycle shock spanner wrench
25- tire air inflator (battery)
Al these items and more (carburetor, jets, sprockets, chains, mirrors, seats and seat covers, windshields and screens and breakers, throttles, cables, etc...) can all be bought on:
1- Amazon (fast shipping, good return policy, more expensive) 2- eBay (good shipping, so-so return policy, medium expensive) 3- AliExpress (best prices, cheap, slow shipping, weak return policy).
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