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Post by lostforawhile on Oct 22, 2017 16:53:18 GMT -5
I'm out of the two wheel game for now, I have done everything possible to get this scooter to run again, and it simply won't run, I spent 45 minutes in the yard kick starting it, before collapsing due to heat exhaustion, I bruised the out of my foot and it simply won't run, I have been through the ignition, the carb at least ten times, timing, compression, and it simply refuses to run, so screw it. It was a stupid idea for me to think I could get out on two wheels again, I'm too old for this , back to a boring useless life again
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Post by w650 on Oct 22, 2017 17:22:54 GMT -5
I don't know your situation but there are people who might help. I took my Kymco to a small engine shop to be fixed. The place repairs snowmobiles, ATVs, lawn tractors, dirt bikes and lots of other stuff. I ran into a wall in my Nighthawks directional signals and took it to another place near me that's much the same. The GY6 engine is being used in many places and many small engine shops are familiar with it.
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Post by lostforawhile on Oct 22, 2017 18:12:33 GMT -5
I'm familiar with this engine too, I could dismantle the entire engine and transmission and put it back together if needed, plus the wiring or anything else needed, it should be running, but for some illogical reason it refuses to run right, everything is right, timing, ignition, compression, valves, fuel, carb is set right but the won't run,I've been working on small engines since I was in kindergarten, and big engines, if any one could figure this out, it's me, I'm not paying someone to scratch his head and not be able to figure it out either. besides if it's a scooter you are on your own around here
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Post by w650 on Oct 22, 2017 19:39:26 GMT -5
Engines usually that difficult. If you have spark, spray starter fluid in the plug hole and the carb isn't blocked, it should fire. Now if it doesn't run right something else is wrong.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Oct 22, 2017 19:46:31 GMT -5
You can still post in the "riding songs" thread while your scoot isn't running.
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Post by lostforawhile on Oct 22, 2017 20:06:20 GMT -5
it's too depressing, we have about 20 people with scoots around here now, I was the first one, now I can't go ride around with anyone, and my 100 mile trip is now off
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Post by wheelbender6 on Oct 22, 2017 20:51:33 GMT -5
Take a break from it for a while. We will be here for you when you feel like trying again.
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Post by chewbaca on Oct 22, 2017 23:23:58 GMT -5
So get a new one
It's not so expensive
Especially compared to a car
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Post by oldchopperguy on Oct 22, 2017 23:51:43 GMT -5
Hey, have a bone on The Old Chopper Guy for your hard effort!I turned 71 myself today, and feel more like a LOT older... Sometimes I've felt the same as you, especially when my old Chinese 150 acted similar to yours. Sometimes these GY6 motors are trouble-free and just fine, but other times they can drive you nutz... I would have chucked the scooter world myself and gone back to big bikes... BUT, old age, arthritis and short budget prevents that. I just cannot climb onto the big bikes anymore. So... I saved my pennies, sold stuff, and finally scraped up enough get the old '07 Kymco 250 I'm riding now. I would suggest you take a break, but also keep in mind that winter is nearly here... AND, the "plethora" of bargain-basement prices on good used scoots from riders who want to get rid of them before having to store it one more season... I'll bet you could sell your troublesome scoot for parts, and find a really GOOD non-Chinese scoot... Japanese, Taiwanese, Italian, etc. at a price you could afford, and end up with a fairly trouble-free bike you will LOVE! My old "Minnie Mouse" is a prime example... 2007 with 18K miles on the clock. I bought her from my local dealer 4 years ago last Christmas. Only repairs ever made were by the dealer before putting her on the lot. They included tires, battery, brake-pads, belt and muffler. She's been reliable as the family sedan now for 4 seasons. No wrenching, just riding, and the 250cc power is a lot more enjoyable than the 150. I can finally keep up with traffic (except for the freeways where locals regularly run ninety+... LOL!) Even there, I can maintain 70, and if I'm careful to watch my mirrors, I can travel the limited-access. If you reflect on your "less than positive" experience, I think you'll find you're not really too old, just have too unreliable a ride. Old age, arthritis, bad backs and bad knees do NOT do well with squatting, laying on your back and endlessly wrenching. It might be a little ray of sunshine, or "light at the end of the tunnel" to ponder the fact that the next couple of months are probably the best time to get a real bargain on an upgrade (even if an oldie) that will provide more reliable riding... Knuckles in the wind, are much happier than knuckles busted while wrenching! Yup! There are a LOT of great reliable scoots out there at affordable prices... Especially if you aren't obsessed with high-tech, fuel-injection, etc. Also great deals on motorcycles should you like to go that route. Depends a lot on how much arthritis you're packing around... LOL! 
Hope you don't give up completely just yet!Stay safe, Leo in Texas
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Post by lostforawhile on Oct 23, 2017 1:25:21 GMT -5
it's not that simple to get rid of it, this was my dads, he brought it down, I can't afford to buy another one anyway, i need to put brakes and tires on the truck , besides i like riding in the winter, if it would ever run right again, he rode full size touring bikes most of his life, and this was his last effort to ride, he's 75 now and on blood thinners so no more riding, I can't get on a full size bike, I tried again recently, I was hit head on by a car while on a bike and broke my back, and messed up my hip. I just can't swing my leg over a regular seat, so it has to be scooters
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Post by cyborg55 on Oct 23, 2017 7:15:03 GMT -5
Chopper is right,,,sell the scoot you have now,,,sell a few things ,,and a new scoot will present itself soon enough,,,I also agree with chopper on Japanese or Taiwan for the choice,,,much better quality (for the time being)
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Post by spandi on Oct 23, 2017 8:03:44 GMT -5
Take a vacation from it. I remember being in art school and one of my instructors pointing out how someone who was working on a sculpture just could't get it "right" they simply put it up for a while and came back to it later, and you know what? then it worked. I've been rebuilding my scoot for the past 5-6 years and believe me there were many times I wanted to throw it off a cliff  but I found staying away for a while worked magic. Sometimes it's not up to us to make things happen, sometime fate decides. |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Oct 25, 2017 2:59:42 GMT -5
it's not that simple to get rid of it, this was my dads, he brought it down, I can't afford to buy another one anyway, i need to put brakes and tires on the truck , besides i like riding in the winter, if it would ever run right again, he rode full size touring bikes most of his life, and this was his last effort to ride, he's 75 now and on blood thinners so no more riding, I can't get on a full size bike, I tried again recently, I was hit head on by a car while on a bike and broke my back, and messed up my hip. I just can't swing my leg over a regular seat, so it has to be scooters
My friend, I can TRULY commensurate with your situation... I guess I fall somewhere between you and your Dad... I'm 71, diabetic, bad arthritis, on blood-pressure meds and blood-thinners. Like you, I just cannot swing a leg over a big bike anymore. It's even difficult to get onto a scooter with the "semi-hump" in the floorboard. I really need a flat-floor scoot. That got me onto the Chinese 150, and now the Kymco 250 Grandvista. While looking for a 250, I noticed several Italian big-wheel scoots with flat floors, along with other Kymco, Buddy, Stella and other scoots. The older models like my GV are getting downright CHEAP... and, they are VERY well-built. I'll bet by mid November, they get even cheaper, too... Even if you keep the non-running one out of nostalgia for your Dad, I'll bet there's a way to get a better ride. I survive on Social Security only, so there is NO money for ANYTHING other than meds... I did some web-graphics, sold some stuff on eBay, sold a couple of old guns I never use... It all adds up. Back when I got "Minnie Mouse" I paid $2,500 which was top dollar back then. Today, one like it could probably be had for less than $1,000. Maybe Much less at this off-season time of year.When you enjoy riding, and are able physically to do so, It's a shame not to be able to. There must be a way to get a better, reliable ride that fits your tight budget. I know how we miss riding... A couple of months back, I went on a group-ride organized by my dealer. Had great time. Then came home, tripped over my own boots and broke my arm... Missed all the best riding weather!!! Cheesh! I'm just now able to get on the road again.  As "Red Green" said: "We're pullin' for ya'... After all, we're all in this together..."
Hoping you do get back on the road again!Leo |
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Post by lostforawhile on Oct 29, 2017 23:19:15 GMT -5
well I got it to kick start every time, but surprise,surprise, by brand new stator has no AC outputs, charge coil works, but no power for the lights and battery charge  the stator will be here Tuesday, and the starter (it's bad too) tomorrow |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Oct 30, 2017 19:26:33 GMT -5
well I got it to kick start every time, but surprise,surprise, by brand new stator has no AC outputs, charge coil works, but no power for the lights and battery charge the stator will be here Tuesday, and the starter (it's bad too) tomorrow Well, at least the starters are easy to change... My GY6 starter went bad the first week... Hope you get the scoot running right. It always feels good to be back "knuckles in the wind" again! Ride safe! Leo |
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