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by: Jarlaxle - Apr 2, 2017 7:17:28 GMT -5
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Post by Jarlaxle on Apr 2, 2017 7:17:28 GMT -5
A lot depends on the instructors at MSF. Where I took mine they were really on the ball and taught the full coarse without shortcutting anything. Sand patches, jumping/hopping small logs, emergency swerve and stop, stop over uneven ground with a dip, holding a line in a tight curve at 30+ mph, short stops, etc. Course started at 20 mph and ended at around 35 to 40 mph with about 1/5 the class not making it past 20 mph. They need to hold the MSF instuctors more accountable to uniformly following the course and grading methods for passing students too.
I don't know where you took that course but I never saw a BRC like that at any of the sites in either New York or New Jersey. They were all in paved ranges with cones and paint marking. I know they have a dirt riding course but that I've never seen. Even the Experienced Rider Course takes place in the same place and it was just slightly more difficult than the BRC. I would have enjoyed the challenge of your course. My dirt riding background would have made it a fun day. Same here: paved lot, decrepit Nighthawks no obstacle-crossing training whatsoever. |
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by: rockynv - Apr 6, 2017 0:37:36 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Apr 6, 2017 0:37:36 GMT -5
Like I said the instuctors passion for riding and engagement with the class can make it or break it. Room for improovement on the part of MSF to ensure a more consistant road coarse training environment.
Classroom with the videos and printed material should be pretty consistant so perhaps the MSF should follow the lead of other service industries and have the instructors clip their cell phones to their jackets and put them on Skype/Facetime mode. Last repairman that came to provide factory service on an appliance at my house had to do that the moment he touched the machine to the moment he closed it up finishing the repair with the manufacture monitoring things to ensure procedure was being followed.
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by: w650 - Apr 11, 2017 11:00:35 GMT -5
Post by w650 on Apr 11, 2017 11:00:35 GMT -5
The bigger issue is that inexperienced riders need time to develop. I had the advantage of dirt riding at an early age. Those reflexes aren't far from the surface. I scared a friend of mine who was following me down a dirt road on a tour. I hit loose dirt which pitched the bike into a slide. Instead of slowing down I simply brought it back into line with more throttle. My buddy was appalled at the sight of a 600 pound shafty going forward, sideways, at 40 mph. I just shrugged.
Of course the first thing I had to unlearn was putting my foot down around a corner the first time I took my Dad's 650 BSA out for a ride on the street. It all came together eventually.
New riders need to develop the senses it takes to survive. An MSF class is a good start but only time burns skills into a synapse.
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