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Post by robotparker on Apr 6, 2013 23:33:33 GMT -5
The stock muffler on my chinese scooter (retro body style, 150cc) rusted off, so I picked up a performance exhaust. but the included header pipe doesn't quite line up with the mounting points already on my scooter. does anyone have any advice on how to get this thing mounted? right now it's only attached at the exhaust port. does anyone know where I can order the correct size header pipe? or did I need something like this: www.partsforscooters.com/190-38-Chrome-Exhaust-Brackets?sc=34&category=132556
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Post by oldchopperguy on Apr 7, 2013 0:02:17 GMT -5
Whoa, brother!
PLEASE don't let the exhaust hang from the head, even just sitting there... LET ALONE ride it that way. It can easily crack the head because of the weight and leverage it exerts on the head.
Your good closeup photo shows the pipe's mount-tab is only a few inches away from the mount-hole. You should be able to put a long-enough bolt (or piece of threaded-stock) there, to reach through the exhaust-tab to the frame-hole. Measure the "open space" between the mount and frame, and cut a piece of tubing (steel, aluminum, whatever's handy) to make a stout spacer, and put nuts on each each side of both pieces so they're pinched tight. That will keep the long bolt from flexing.
The pipe mount looks slightly "low" compared to the frame-hole, but it may just be flexing a little from weight. If it won't line up without straining, you can make a slight "S" bend in the bolt or threaded-stock, but be sure to place needed nuts on before bending, or they won't thread on.
If an S-bend in the bolt is needed because the holes are too far off, up/down, or fore/aft, it would be easier to use threaded stock instead of a bolt. Then, the space could be filled with washers (which would conform to the S-bend). Just be sure to double-nut and pinch well, each end, or the vibrations will eventually crack the bolt, or threaded stock.
Make sure the exhaust is good and solid to that frame, as the aluminum head CANNOT stand the weight of the exhaust "wrenching" against it.
Hope this helps, it's a pretty simple one-bolt-and-spacer fix.
I love these "turtle-back" scoots! Very retro, and your new exhaust will be a nice addition! Just DON'T break that head by letting the exhaust hang free...
Very often, a new exhaust won't quite fit up to the factory mounts. You have to expect to "Mickey-Mouse" things a little... LOL! I'm about to replace my own exhaust, and will surely run into the same problems. It's well-worth a little cutting, bending or drilling to get it on right.
Sincerely,
Leo in Texas
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Post by carasdad on Apr 7, 2013 10:07:10 GMT -5
Fill that gap with a piece of pipe....then as oldchopperguy said....use a long bolt. But DO NOT let it just hang like that..pipe will crack and burn your exhaust valve! Also you MUST support the muffler itself....here is a pic on how I made one for my gf scoot. Cost me $3.75 for the piece of 1/2"X3/4" aluminum angle stock. Look closely at pic. It has lasted her going on 4 years now... The arrows in the pic show the 2 pieces of angle stock I used. Took 30 mins to make....super easy.. Attachments:
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Post by andrewrides1 on Apr 8, 2013 10:17:22 GMT -5
try some washers and a long bolt like the guy above said. i had some problems mounting my exhaust too mainly with the support bracket i needed to concoct a little brace like the guy above's picture. my bolts lined up fine but you will get through it dude. I recently had to take my exhaust off and put the stock one back on because I was getting too much air flow and it was bogging the engine down maybe when I get a big valve head I'll try it back out.
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Post by JR on Apr 8, 2013 10:25:07 GMT -5
Washer will work but if it is a straight shot a piece of pipe cut to fight makes a more stable spacer.
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Post by andrewrides1 on Apr 8, 2013 10:31:39 GMT -5
Ya but if it's not a straight shot he will need a dremel to angle cut the pipe I would say just use washers and impact it on there. but thats just an opinion. Ya have a valid point.
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Post by boamedt on Apr 8, 2013 10:50:49 GMT -5
Or measure the distance from hanger to mount point and take Ur exhaust to a exhaust shop and have them weld u on a tab that will reach.....couldn't be more than a few bucks
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Post by oldchopperguy on Apr 9, 2013 1:32:59 GMT -5
Fill that gap with a piece of pipe....then as oldchopperguy said....use a long bolt. But DO NOT let it just hang like that..pipe will crack and burn your exhaust valve! Also you MUST support the muffler itself....here is a pic on how I made one for my gf scoot. Cost me $3.75 for the piece of 1/2"X3/4" aluminum angle stock. Look closely at pic. It has lasted her going on 4 years now... The arrows in the pic show the 2 pieces of angle stock I used. Took 30 mins to make....super easy.. THAT is a perfect example of good old American "know-how" applied to a VERY non-American item... Two "thumbs-up" from the Old Chopper Guy! Leo in Texas
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Post by carasdad on Apr 9, 2013 10:15:49 GMT -5
Fill that gap with a piece of pipe....then as oldchopperguy said....use a long bolt. But DO NOT let it just hang like that..pipe will crack and burn your exhaust valve! Also you MUST support the muffler itself....here is a pic on how I made one for my gf scoot. Cost me $3.75 for the piece of 1/2"X3/4" aluminum angle stock. Look closely at pic. It has lasted her going on 4 years now... The arrows in the pic show the 2 pieces of angle stock I used. Took 30 mins to make....super easy.. THAT is a perfect example of good old American "know-how" applied to a VERY non-American item... Two "thumbs-up" from the Old Chopper Guy! Leo in Texas Thanks LEO....and thanks for your service and duty to the citizens of your state. They do sell brackets he could buy to make it fit...they have cheap junk ones on Ebay for $25 and others for about $50 on different web sites. After seeing a customer scoot with a $40 one on it....I decided to make my own for $3.75. Funny part of the story..his broke after 4 months....gf's home made one is 4 years old! ;D @ The guy who suggested have a muffler shop heat and bend it...many customers have tried that route and most shops won't mess with the Chinese metal...they say it melts or gets holes too easy. The few that would wanted $50-$60 to attempt to make it fit. Maybe I am wrong in suggesting he not waste money...but I was raised on a farm...we were VERY poor. Did our own farm implement repairs..and never bought anything...if we needed it..we MADE IT! People may scoff at poverty..but I am willing to bet they have more ingenuity that a wealthy Corporate Executive..
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Post by robotparker on Apr 11, 2013 9:14:05 GMT -5
thanks for the response guys! when I first read oldchopperguy's post, I immediately ran out and took the muffler off. I hope I wasn't too late!
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Post by irontattoo on Apr 12, 2013 15:15:14 GMT -5
I have the same ride too,but different exhaust.(is not in this picture) I'll take a picture tomorrow maybe. Attachments:
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