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Post by larry001964 on Dec 8, 2013 11:28:00 GMT -5
I know the trailer sounds like a lot, but i have seen some pretty light ones that would do the job... They were just two wheels, an aluminum frame and cloth... My recommendations are based on what the other guy went thru, and my own personal experiences, been riding two wheeled vehicles since i was 10, and I'm almost 50 now.. I really do understand money being a big issue... But you get out there 1 or 2 hundred miles from home and go down, it will become an even bigger issue...
Now what Spandi said was true, the other guy did run without oil, but i don't remember why, if he developed an oil leak in route or what, but it totally trashed his engine and he required a new one.. But he did have several break downs prior to that... I don't really know his mechanical ability or yours, I don't know the condition of your current engine or how many miles you have on it already. So forgive me if i error on the side of caution. It's your safety and your completing the trip I'm most concerned with...
Believe it or not, I would love to see you do it and make it, on the same engine you started with, many bash Chinese scoots, but I believe it can be done, I just don't want you to get out there and find yourself in trouble with no way out.. The AAA was more if your not mechanically inclined..
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Post by larry001964 on Dec 7, 2013 21:39:58 GMT -5
Just to be clear... We do not manufacture these. I came across them on the internet and thought they were funny so I bought a bunch. They are very popular. I apologize if anyone is offended as that is not the intent. Have a great day! Offended Noooo way, just not the message I wish to convey is all... |
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Post by larry001964 on Dec 7, 2013 21:26:19 GMT -5
Hummm well it has been done before, I forget the guy that attempted it's name..It's in the old scootdawg somewhere. Any way he broke down several times, even required a new engine at some point, he was constantly badmouthing Chinese scooter's and really made quit a few people angry...
My suggestion if you are serious are, get a trailer that you can tow behind you, include two top end rebuild kits, A spare carb and fuel filter, a spare variator, drive belt, switch to Dr. Pulley sliders, ( to my knowledge last the longest ) extra plastic guides, enough oil for at least two oil changes.. And have your AAA membership paid in full.. Install a 12 volt outlet so your cell phone can charge while your driving, spare CDI, spark plug, and coil and all the necessary tools to perform a full top end rebuild along side the road..
Also let the air out of your tires, put some slime in them, and air them back up. I know it sounds like a lot, but this will increase your chances of making it a lot... Good Luck
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Post by larry001964 on Dec 6, 2013 15:39:45 GMT -5
Yea I love mine too, use it on car batteries, motorcycle batteries just about anything.. If your having a problem with your battery and it don't come back with a charger/maintainer, it's time to get a new battery.... I was really disappointed when I learned the Battery Tender only maintains and did not charge, and my charger/maintainer was actually cheaper than the Battery Tender, not much but still cheaper.. I'm pretty sure the Battery Tender Jr. is a full on charger. The manufacturer states that the Jr. charges at 0.75 amps and this is a quote from their website: "Complete 4-step charging program (Initialization, Bulk Charge, Absorption Mode, Float Mode)" I own one and use it on my car more than I do on my scooter and it seems to work great as a charger. Don't know what to tell you The Battery Tender Jr didn't charge anything for me.. After an hour it would go into float mode and that was it, it quit even trying to charge the battery. I even left it on the battery for two days, didn't charge anything. I have enough 12v items laying around to test with and I'm Maintaining it was flat after two days and the Battery Tender Jr saying it was charged. I had to travel 20 miles to return it so it was not something i wanted to have to do, and looked for every thing that could be wrong before i even tried to take it back. I don't think the JR was defective, but i didn't try it on anything else either. Anyway I'm pretty happy with what I have now. |
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Post by larry001964 on Dec 4, 2013 2:16:39 GMT -5
Late to this conversation, I have an opinion on the subject though. In the 60's I would ride with shorts on, in a tee shirt and wearing Sunglasses even though I had a helmet. In the 70's California passed a helmet law and it made me mad, what the heck made them think they had a right to make me wear a helmet, I was also now required to wear a seat belt when driving my car, but refused to because they could not see the seat belt anyway, until the car makers started putting three point belts in the car. I had a friend that fell from the back of a truck as it was pulling away from a stop, he hit his head and was severely injured, he spent a year in rehab and was never the same after that. We had a member on the old sight, Bluefront, who was killed in a scooter accident about two years ago, July 9, 2011. He was a great guy and is missed by some of us even today. I am sure he was wearing all the gear. List people we do things every day to protect our self, we pay for insurance for the home, for the car, for health. We do for the most part use a seat belt. We obey traffic laws because if we do not we are putting more risks in our way. Nothing will make us totally safe if we do everything right, accidents still happen. The only thing we can do is reduce the risk by doing what we can to add as much protection as possible. Wow Doug, I very much remember bluefont, I was truly saddened by his death, though it was from health related issues he was having, didn't know it was a scooter accident.. |
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 30, 2013 20:46:18 GMT -5
Torque is basically pressure. Force per radial displacement. Strokers produce more torque by design. Most variators both performance and stock were not designed for the additional torque of a stroker crankshaft. RPM has nothing to do with it in this case. I was thinking the higher stresses combined with the rpms produced more heat.. |
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 30, 2013 20:40:19 GMT -5
I got 58 GPS on my black galaxy with the 18/46 set on a flat smooth road the 16/50 set I only got a little over 50 on my tap out scoot. Never any cvt issues but I never held those speeds for long if I did I probably would of had the same troubles. Yea most of my driving back then was in 20 to 40 mile shots. So there were times I held those speeds for some time.. My max rpm was about 7500 and my power curve kicked in about 3500 to 4000.. The Koso lasted about three months, most variators if i took it easy lasted about two months... What made it a workable design was enlarging the contact area on the ramp plate, and going back to the original variator as it was made of steel and not aluminum... Now Fawkes is setup for around town driving, and hill climbing.. But I want to try it again with some more improvements.. And I'm thinking of using a 2 stroke variator with a custom made boss. If i can find one the right size. |
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 30, 2013 17:17:33 GMT -5
Millsc I can believe speeds above 50 tear up the CVT.. I did buy a Hoca trans kit, but I never used the yellow contra spring, only the shieve, bell, clutch shoes ( kept the original springs), variator, 3x 8.0 and 3x 8.5 gram dr pully sliders, Gates Power link belt, 17/49 gears.. So pretty much it was stock except the gearing, and heaver duty componet's..
I know i was getting speeds of at least 60 mph... time and distance calculations confirm that at the time
But there were times driving from Cutler to Delphi where i wondered if i wasn't going just a little faster than 60 ( this was after i doubled the ramp plate contact area in the variator ).. But I have no conformation on how fast.. I'm thinking regardless of your setup, the rpm's being turned at 50 + mph cause excessive heat causing guide key breakdown and eventually ramp plate to damage the variator..
My CVT was cut open above the clutch bell and variator, but it worked best when i had that fan attached to the variator....
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 29, 2013 20:41:17 GMT -5
Common sense and paying attention to your surrounding are the two things that will keep you safe. Well it certainly helps, but helmet or not, shouldn't you still be doing that ? |
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 28, 2013 0:37:38 GMT -5
People are going to do what they are going to do, seldom do we ever change ones mind once it's made up... On that note i will say I sure hope and pray for every ones safety... Good luck
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 27, 2013 23:12:27 GMT -5
What an interesting thread, reading all the pro's and con's of wearing a helmet or not to wear a helmet..
What I find the most interesting is many of us have came from the older scootdawg website, so many of you over the years have posted near misses by people on cell phones, or drivers doing stupid things that forced a maneuver from you to get out of anothers vehicles way..
Then turn around here in this thread and list the many reasons why you don't like to wear a helmet, yet in your writings you omit your previous near misses in the past..... Here's my 2 cents, and we all know 2 cents ain't worth much now days, won't even buy a stick of gum any more, but here it goes..
I believe in helmets, there are many many different type's full face, half face, beanies, just to name a few, All will offer more protection than none at all.. We all know car drivers don't see us, they can't stay away from their cell phones, and are quite willing to risk your life to send a text of no real importants.. So we all know the dangers exist, yet you refuse to wear any protection... I don't agree with you.. And thanks to our nations love of health care, we all are paying for your decision even if we don't want to.. Think not ? It's called a risk pool, and I don't believe it will be long before they start mandating things like dot approved helmet's, and other apparel all in the name of safety..
Think not ? well when i was 23 and flying airplanes, my work insurance tried to raise my rates because they considered flying risky hobby, At the time I told my insurance agent if he even tried to raise my rates, Id cancel them right then and there and could easily be re insured by a company that specializes in pilot's.. Needless to say I won that one.. But now days with the current laws I would be forced to either quit flying, or pay the higher rate. The risk pool will determine what we all pay, and sooner or later they will begin mandating what you will wear on your bike or you will pay more..
I believe helmets are a very important safety device to wear, but for those of you that don't wish to wear them I pray you don't have an accident, not just for your safety but so my rates within the pool don't go up... In other words now days it's not about you any more.. It's about the good of the collective..
As much as I absolutely detest this, you can bet i didn't vote for it, but that's what it's about now.. Not you..
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 27, 2013 15:38:15 GMT -5
I feel windshields on a 50cc are ugly and look crazy. I have a full face helmet it takes care of the wind and warmth Well i liked mine, it was not really for wind or warmth, it was more for those pesky june bugs that hurt when you hit them at 45 mph.. LOL |
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 27, 2013 14:48:22 GMT -5
Millsc runs 50s doing 58mph. But what I contend is a stroker crank or any crank has nothing to do with the variator going bad as a matter of fact with a stroker you loose some rpms due to the extra length of the arm. Your problem appears to be the Plastic Guides that break up then causing damage to the Variator. Being a 150 running high mph would cause the same thing. What I think is most likely causing this is the heat weakening the plastic guides after all apply enough heat and plastics melt. I would try Dr. Pulley guides and if you already tried those then open the CVT up to get more air for cooling it down. Alleyoop Don't know what to tell you Alleyoop, I did all you suggested, opened up the CVT cover, tried Dr. Pulley plastic guides, and several other name brands, even welded a build up on the backing plate and doubled the contact area, built custom guides to match the thicker contact area... That solution seemed to work the best, but even doing that the time was limited.... I know Millsc ran 16/50 gearing while I ran 17/49 and i know your right I did turn slower rpms.. My RPM never got above 7500.. It was the torque that gave me so much speed... And perhaps too much stress on the components. Maybe i should have been running 16/50 gearing. Well things are different now, I don't drive Fawkes every day now, like i did back then.. So I have more time to work on these problems and get it right.. Now back to the original thread, Koso didn't hold up at all for me. |
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 27, 2013 12:44:15 GMT -5
What does a stroker crank have to do with anything. I have a stroker crank in my motor? Please explain, I am confused as to what a stroker crank or none stroker crank do differently to a Variator. Alleyoop Hummm well your stroker is in a 150 is it not ? Mine was in a 50cc, and the aluminum variators seemed not to take the power produced by it, it would cut thru the plastic guides, then the ramp plate would cut the aluminum guides, perhaps yours being a 150 the metal is stronger I really don't know.. The only explanation i could figure out was the 139 was not designed for speeds really over 45 to 50, With the stroker I actually got 60 mph out of it.. But i tore up a lot of variators doing it... Bought the best names in variators and all pretty much could not deal with the power i was getting... As far as I know i was one of the first to attempt a stroker in a 139 and these were some of the problems I had, I know another user Hank built one and corrected many of the problems I had, he read my post on the old scootdawg. Any way my thinking was the metal was just not up to the power being produced and the weight being moved at that speed.... when your getting performance that is on par with a 150 out of weaker components designed for a 50, well they seemed not to take it very long... Currently Fawkes is just an 83cc, as i had other problems that led to my purchasing a new motor, I would like to try the stroker again, and em looking at components that will withstand the strokers power, and fix some of the minor problems I had with it at the time, like for instance i didn't add an extra base gasket, so yes my compression was high at 205, made starting it hard.. I have figured out how to solve much of the problems i had at the time.. But the variator... That one I'm still working on.. |
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Post by larry001964 on Nov 27, 2013 0:27:43 GMT -5
I've got the Battery Tender Jr. I think it was $50 installed by the dealer. Not completely sure 'cause it was a gift from my Dad. I've plugged it in every time I park in front of my wagon. I got the scooter (and the battery) in 2007; I got the Tender a few months later at my first oil change. I'm still on that same battery. So while larry's experience wasn't a good one, I must say that my experience is quite pleasing indeed. >'Kat I Kat well perhaps bad experience was the wrong way for me to say it, before i was unaware there was a difference between a Battery Maintainer and a battery charger/maintainer... The Battery Tender is a maintainer, and while it will put a minor charge back into a battery, it is not designed to charge a nearly drained battery... I bring this up only to tell others there is a difference between a Battery maintainer and a charger/maintainer.. Not to detract from the battery tender... But only to illistrate the differences, a charger/maintainer will charge a nearly flat battery, then maintain it just as the Battery Tender does, the Battery Tender will Maintain the charge in a battery but will not charge it back up if it's been drained nearly flat for some reason.. Depending on your needs I post this to help others in choosing the right one, In my case i had drained my battery trying to start Fawkes when he was a stroker, so the battery was good, just needed recharged so I needed more than a maintainer.. |
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