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Post by maxtera on Apr 3, 2017 20:31:19 GMT -5
I got a call from the Honda repair shop about my Reflex, they said it would need either a top end rebuild, best case, ($675) or a total rebuild, worse case, ($1200). I went to FL this weekend to visit family, and while there I decided to look on eBay for scooter parts. While looking I just happened to find a low mileage engine from a 2006 scooter, complete with a carburetor and starter.
The donor scooter only had 13k miles on it and the engine should drop right into my 2004. I now have a 3rd carburetor, 2 of which I plan to sell to recoup some of my money. I'll remove my old motor and have the shop put in the new one as I don't have a work bench to get it up high enough. I'll eventually rebuild the engine and sell it as well.
While in FL the guy showed me a top end kit they sell for about $110 dollars, I'll consult a motorcycle rider friend as to what is the best route to go in regards to fixing my old engine. Hopefully I'll be on the road with the Honda in a few weeks.
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Post by maxtera on Mar 31, 2017 10:37:05 GMT -5
Well it appears like the scooter will need top end work. I got a call saying that they needed to remove the top to confirm their suspicions. They quoted me prices of $675 for a head gasket and up to $1300 for a complete rebuild. Needless to say, the wife is not very happy. My problem is that the scooter only has 3800 miles on it, how does the engine get messed up this bad at such low mileage? Any way, I'm having them check it out and let me know what's wrong.
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Post by maxtera on Mar 27, 2017 8:41:00 GMT -5
Well, I rebuilt the Honda Reflex carb, replaced the sparkplug, changed the fuel filter and put all the hoses back where they belonged. It started but once I took it off the center stand for a test ride it kept dying on me and let out a continuous cloud of smoke.
At first I thought it was from the carb cleaner that I had used, so I let it idle for about 5 mins, still smoking. Then while pushing it back into the garage I noticed that both brakes were sticking, the rear more so than the front.
As a last gasp of hope before I threw in the towel for the night I decided to change the oil. Lo and behold it looked like a chocolate milkshake and smelled like gas, both not good signs. I'm hoping that the PO, (a lady in her early 60's) just didn't do regular maintenance on it. The reason it was parked was because it was having carb problems, so I'm hoping that it was running rich and dumping fuel.
My next move is to take it to the Honda dealer I found, (just 10 miles from my house) on Tues and have them do a full diagnosis on the engine. If it checks out ok, I'll have all the other issues fixed, if not I'll part it out and keep the Jonway.
Wish me luck, as I like the Honda better, and with my recent lower back issues the seat is 100x's more comfortable than the Jonway. I'll let you know what they find out.
Anyone have any thoughts on what it might be? The scooter only has 3860 miles on it. Thanks all. |
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Post by maxtera on Mar 16, 2017 17:55:48 GMT -5
While trolling the web getting knowledge on these bikes I came across their site more than a few times. I called the shop that did the work on the Jonway and they said they get their parts from them. I checked them out and decided to give them a call. I'll definitely look into the 2 sites you mentioned for parts I suspect I'll need a different type of sending unit for the Jonway. I'm in the process of taking the panels off of it so I can get to the carburetor and the back of the gas tank. I wish now that I hadn't filled them both up with gas as I have to remove the sending unit and I don't have a siphon.
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Post by maxtera on Mar 15, 2017 17:40:43 GMT -5
I'm finding that getting parts for these bikes is definitely a challenge. I had so much fun cleaning and rebuilding the spare carb on the Honda that I'm going to rebuild my OE one that was trashed. I called BikeBandit.com and ordered 2 sets of screws, a new SE valve, new throttle wire screw, and a float bowl gasket just so I can rebuild my broke carb and have a like new replacement, in a bag on standby. I'm hoping that the fuel sending unit on the Jonway matches the one on the Honda, that way it will be an easy fix for the Jonway.
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Post by maxtera on Mar 13, 2017 21:59:39 GMT -5
I don't have a clue as to why but I'll take it. I started the Honda up this afternoon and revved it, and I got it to go to 8500 rpms with no problem. I even could give it gas as it idled down to 3500 - 6000 rpms and it wouldn't stall out like it did the day before. Mind you I haven't actually ridden it yet, its still on the center stand and I still have to put the seat and body panels on it. But that's coming real soon.
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Post by maxtera on Mar 13, 2017 8:42:24 GMT -5
I think you guys are right as I suspected the fuel pump may be on the way out. I noticed when I had the old carb on that the fuel wasn't really moving in the glass filter like it did when I put the rebuilt carb on. I really like the look of the Reflex, plus it has a stereo, and my helmet fits under the seat no problem.
I'll more than likely put it in the shop and have them check the pump and CDI. I don't want to simply buy parts like I did with the fuel pump, (it was very poor quality). A couple of hundred dollars spent one time is way better than me buying used electronic parts with no clue if that's the problem. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'll keep you posted as to what I find out. |
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Post by maxtera on Mar 12, 2017 21:13:04 GMT -5
Hello all, as the title says that is my problem. On Feb 6th, I bought a black, 2007 Jonway Roadster from a friend and spent $400 bucks for a scooter shop to get it running like crap, (I suspect the carburetor needs a good cleaning).
Then while looking for various parts for the Jonway, I came across a 2004 Honda Reflex for sale that I thought would make a perfect parts bike. But when I went to check it out it only had 3860 miles on it, was in great shape panel wise, and the only reason it was not being ridden was because it developed a carburetor problem 8 months earlier they decided to park it.
If I were to buy it there was a spare carburetor as part of the deal. Well, on Mar 4th, I did buy it and when I got it home, I put in a new battery, sparkplug, and fuel filter. When I tried starting it, it would only crank and not even attempt to start.
After doing my basic diagnostics I decided that it needed a new fuel pump so I bought one, WRONG, still only cranked. Frustrated, I decided to see if I could rebuild the spare carburetor that came with the Honda. So I found a video on youtube and went to work. I took it completely apart cleaned everything and got it back together.
Next I removed the carburetor on the Honda and put on my rebuilt one. I also put the original fuel pump back on as an afterthought. Gave it power and would you believe, the darn thing cranked and came on. I later found out that the original carburetor had a bad Starting Enrichment, (SE) valve. I found this out by searching the web for my problem, and it matched exactly.
The good news, I have 2 running scooters, a Red 2004 Honda Reflex, with 3860 miles and a black 2007 Jonway Roadster, with 558 miles. Once I get a chance I'll rebuild the carburetor on the Jonway and see which one runs best and keep it, the other will go on the Lemon lot for sale.
The bad news, the Honda has trouble and can only get up to roughly 5000 rpm's then it will start to struggle and the rpm's will drop a few hundred or more.
My questions, is there some adjustment I can make, do I simply need to ride it and "blow out" the cobwebs, or, is there something else wrong? From watching videos and other peoples posts I know the Honda is a beast. But I really don't want to take it to the repair shop for something that I feel is an easy fix just so they can take another few hundred dollars from me, especially since I've come this far with it.
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Post by maxtera on Mar 12, 2017 20:44:24 GMT -5
Long story short it wasn't my fuel pump it turned out to be a bad Starting Enrichment valve on the old carburetor. I'm going to make another post and explain and also ask a question. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions. The Honda is alive.
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Post by maxtera on Mar 6, 2017 17:49:16 GMT -5
I bought an 04 Honda Reflex with a known starting issue. I got it home changed the sparkplug, replaced the battery, and replaced the fuel filter. I tried to start it but it would only crank. I noticed that the fuel filter wasn't filling up so I checked the connection and saw that it had a burn mark on the rubber covering the connection. I didn't check it with a volt meter but based on what I saw I decided to buy a new pump. After thinking about it I'm thinking I may have jumped the gun. Is there any thing else that I could have checked other than the fuel pump that has similar symptoms?
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Post by maxtera on Feb 28, 2017 23:19:59 GMT -5
My name is Martin and I have a 2007 Jonway 250cc scooter. I passed the written test to get my endorsement and I got it inspected and registered this week. I don't think I'll take it on the highway but there are numerous roads to ride on.
I'm taking the motorcycle safety course test in April so until then I plan to get lots of practice. The bike had broken lower panels that I fixed using fiberglass. I got the scooter running but it gets hot so I'm trying to fix that problem.
I like to tinker on vehicles and I found a 2007 Honda Reflex that I want to get for my son but I don't know anything about that particular scooter. My question, is that a good scooter to buy and what should I pay for it? Currently it's not running and hasn't been run in over a year. Thanks for any and all help.
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