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Post by nssm on Sept 2, 2017 19:18:12 GMT -5
Ok, so what do you suggest as a reasonably solid performing OEM spec carb? I bought my bike crate new, so it wasn't typically molested by mechanics who scam people into "yep, I'm an expert."
Because in the process of tuning, I think I fried my starter switch so the bike keeps trying to start...
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Post by nssm on Sept 1, 2017 18:29:48 GMT -5
Ok, just chipping away at my patience here. Got the bike to start up, but , it's running rich. The muffler pops when above 6-6500 rpm then runs smoothly at 2500 idle. However, in the process of honing the a/f, i must have tripped up a ground wire and the bike kept the starter motor running. Even after the switches disengaged, it keeps trying to start up, risking burning out the starter. Seems the battery is live and is being discharged at some connection...Grrr...the mechanic did hook up the solienoid with a wire from the positive and cut the black ground to hot start it. Well, I tried to connect the two loose wires by means of a flip switch but thats out the door; it keeps trying to start without any input from me.
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Post by nssm on Sept 1, 2017 18:18:20 GMT -5
Actually, this is very one I purchased BEFORE I found out the stock carb was unserviceable: "Performance race CVK quality 30mm carburetor for the 152QMI and 157QMJ gy6 125 and 150cc four stroke chinese scooter/atv engines. Fits, but is not limited to the Roketa, Sym, Tank, VIP, Tank, Sunl, Vento, etc." - as sold on www.scrappydogscooters.com/125_150cc_Performance.htmlShould I get a smaller one? (I read that a smaller inlet increase the intake velocity?)
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Post by nssm on Sept 1, 2017 18:13:48 GMT -5
The original carb was running dry. The intake/exhaust combo flushed all fuel from the carb whenever it rode. When I went to take it apart, the screws at the bottom were grinded off; unservicable.
What I am reading now, perhaps, an aftermarket OEM spec carb that I can at least rejet might be in order. I got the balance right finally, but had to turn the a/f flow pretty wide, so Im guessing it IS too much air going in and will never find enough fuel to feed it.
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Post by nssm on Aug 30, 2017 15:30:12 GMT -5
Hellooo from Miami, FL! I ride a GY6 150cc myself and have learned plenty along the way. Best wishes!
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Post by nssm on Aug 30, 2017 15:23:30 GMT -5
I recently replaced the stock fuel filter the shady mechanic installed in place of the (older) high-flow fuel filter I got from SD. It was browned out and soaked in fuel, so they installed the stock one. I swapped it back with a new larger one I bought from Advanced Auto to the same dimension.
You're saying its TOO much fuel for the carb, increased pressure on the fuel pump? (isn't the petcock just a manual vaccuum?) I have a 32mm CVK carb on my GY6 150cc, with a custom intake situation to handle the air flow.
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Post by nssm on Aug 30, 2017 14:03:04 GMT -5
Hi ITR, It's been a bumpy couple of months, finally brought Akagi to a mechanic referred from a trusted friend. Took a couple of weeks and few trips back and forth, but the bike is back in front of my driveway. Drove it about 10-12 miles back from Miramar in the rain, with a dead battery. It's crazy, but the guys there had trouble too getting the motor to start and stay on running. So, they spliced a red wire from the positive end of the starter solenoid and cut the ground (black) wire to the coil. I simply connected them to a 2 way switch at the side panel vent and now have to engage the starter in a 3rd sequence. The mechanic also adjusted the carb to handle the increase of air intake from a custom setup he crafted from the aftermarket filter and the stock airbox hose. It looks pretty legit in my opinion, but he says that balancing the A/F now is much more trickier. I even considered modifying the downpipe with a A/F sensor bung, maybe someday... The bike has run a few dozen miles since, until one morning it decided not to turn over before the effects of passing tropical storm Harvey rained out an entire week. So it sat for a few days. I'm in it again, dialed the carb back and starting all over with the A/F mix. There's a idle adjust and screw at the drain bowl that controls the flow of gas into the housing of the carb. Once I get it firing, then I dial back the A/F until it starts to sputter, then turn the idle screw higher RPM until it sounds smooth, but its like chasing a ghost without knowing whats really working right. The carb sounds like its flooding every time I give it throttle (about 30-50%) then bogs out. It was the very problem that had me consider selling this whole damn thing and moving on to something else. I had to make the run to the mechanic again to pick up the parts I had left behind; an oil coolers system (the mechanic replaced the oil the Hialean mechanic filled with Royal Purple now.), a crate of odds and ends, the old stock air box, and random hose bolts and clamps. I made the trip back with little stops. The vaccuum lines to the petcock keep slipping from the loop on the manifold, so it will choke without fuel after a few miles then relink it only to pet the throttle due to some hesitation. I think the motor is mad fuel thirsty because it runs a heavy vaccuum now. Whats up ITR?
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Post by nssm on Mar 25, 2017 16:30:24 GMT -5
Actually runs fine, better now with a SSP-G intake manifold, CVK 32mm Performance carb, and air intake filter. The issue now is electrical. I'm having a spell with the starter, as the battery is fully charged, I turn the key to no response from the IP cluster gauges, lights, or solenoid. I wonder what it is. The grounds in the headlights are good, the switches are connected, and only when I have the battery hooked up to the charger, does it start. All the wires are good (less than a year old from brand new) and metered all the connections, to good signal, can't seem to find the bug.
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Post by nssm on Feb 21, 2017 18:14:06 GMT -5
Thank you for the feedback!
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Post by nssm on Feb 21, 2017 14:09:28 GMT -5
Hello forum, I am a Miami-based illustrator and a new motor scooterist! I own a 2016 150cc Icebear PMZ-150, spec. 6-8 hp and an active daily driver. This thread continues ongoing in Show Us Your Scoot! >> Hello! NSSM from Miami, FL - 150cc
Akaigaryu "Red Dragon" - Crate day: 1/07/2016 Startup day: 1/11/2016 I bought it brand new January 2016 from MegaMotorMadness.com for about $900 and it has been a blast to drive and better to own. I went from a 3 year old beater 50cc TaoTao I bought from a pawn shop garage with many problems, but after a year and many setbacks I learned plenty about how these Chinese clones operate. With a gifted friend, I took to the ignition first, upgrading the A/C fan, spark plug (Iridium +2), and Performance CDI. The bike then clocked in at about ~10 hp topping out about 70 mph on the highway. Things went well until something failed in its transmission driving 10 miles to and from work that the drivetrain binded under some kind of pressure. I parked it for about 6 months whilst I patiently upgraded the entire transmission system, intake, and exhaust. A few other mods: an oil cooler and catch system to alleviate the oil pressure flaw inherent to these particular 150cc motors from Taiwan/ China. Recently got it started up (it's mean-sounding!) and now back in the saddle. Long story short, its been a long road but I'm glad I'm getting by. I'll upload highlights by request, more as I continue this path, and welcome any feedback/comments about me or my bike. Back on the road 2/21/2017; after a 6+ month absence! (Note: cup holders!) I started up a small shed garage here in Miami I'd like to service the local community and advocate safe driving for the youth. If you'd like to contribute, please visit my GoFundMe here (https://www.gofundme.com/thehangar1928) to learn more!
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Post by nssm on Feb 21, 2017 13:42:50 GMT -5
Hello forum, I am a Miami-based illustrator and a new motor scooterist! I own a 2016 150cc Icebear PMZ-150, spec. 6-8 hp and an active daily driver. I bought it brand new January 2016 from MegaMotorMadness.com for about $900 and it has been a blast to drive and better to own. I went from a 3 year old beater 50cc TaoTao I bought from a pawn shop garage with many problems, but after a year and many setbacks I learned plenty about how these Chinese clones operate. With a gifted friend, I took to the ignition first, upgrading the A/C fan, spark plug (Iridium +2), and Performance CDI. The bike then clocked in at about ~10 hp topping out about 70 mph on the highway. Things went well until something failed in its transmission driving 10 miles to and from work that the drivetrain binded under some kind of pressure. I parked it for about 6 months whilst I patiently upgraded the entire transmission system, intake, and exhaust. A few other mods: an oil cooler and catch system to alleviate the oil pressure flaw inherent to these particular 150cc motors from Taiwan/ China. Recently got it started up (it's mean-sounding!) and now back in the saddle. Long story short, its been a long road but I'm glad I'm getting by. I'll upload highlights by request, more as I continue this path, and welcome any feedback/comments about me or my bike. Back on the road 2/21/2017 I started up a small shed garage here in Miami I'd like to service the local community and advocate safe driving for the youth. If you'd like to contribute, please visit my GoFundMe here (https://www.gofundme.com/thehangar1928) to learn more!
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