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Post by w650 on Jan 24, 2017 10:29:41 GMT -5
I don't know. I think that's a pretty fair assessment. Victory started out taking on Harley something even the Japanese haven't succeeded at. It's obvious that all the V Twins from the Big 4 are better mechanically than Harley but have been labeled "Me Too" motorcycles. Victory should have started out with something different, even a big bore standard and followed up with something entry level. Indian may succeed since it has the name. Or, as I said, Polaris should have purchased the rights to an older name like Pierce or even Columbia. Phony heritage seems to work just fine.
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Post by w650 on Jan 20, 2017 15:51:05 GMT -5
A Bintelli ad with some pizazz. Nice looking scooters and good music.
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Post by w650 on Jan 20, 2017 12:55:24 GMT -5
they make the exhaust for the yamaha zuma 125s.... and this bro baccio is a replica of the yamaha
The Yamaha uses a proprietary engine, the Baccio a GY6. I would take some serious measurements before I would dive into adapting a Yamaha pipe to a Baccio. People make exhaust systems for the GY6. I would contact Matt at Parts for Scooters ( www.partsforscooters.com ) just to start. He might know a better option.
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Post by w650 on Jan 20, 2017 10:34:13 GMT -5
A few years back I made a New Years resolution to not do any more resolutions,,,, I finally got one that I've kept,,,, I prefer spontaneity. I resolve to change things at various times during the year and then forget them. Although I did resolve to buy another motorcycle in 2015 and you see how that turned out. Some things are better left alone. |
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Post by w650 on Jan 20, 2017 7:23:13 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Jan 20, 2017 7:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Jan 18, 2017 15:22:37 GMT -5
Jeez Borg. This is a family forum. LOL
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Post by w650 on Jan 18, 2017 13:28:01 GMT -5
What else is new. Ducati is so lucky that Audi owns them.
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Post by w650 on Jan 18, 2017 7:33:44 GMT -5
Yes, it's sad. It puts the onus on most of the world when in fact it's our problem. The Japanese have always made U.S. beef sales impossible in their country. Could they be next?
With all the competition from the Chinese and Taiwan Piaggio is having a hard enough time selling scooters. It could be 1980 all over again and Vespa could leave for another 20 years.
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Post by w650 on Jan 17, 2017 11:25:09 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Jan 13, 2017 17:31:31 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Jan 12, 2017 13:54:33 GMT -5
Nice looking bikes and scooters. www.sinnismotorcycles.com/This only shows the commitment to a future. We have also spent 4 years researching the best in Electronic Fuel Injection systems, ABS and Combined braking systems to enable us in 2017 to bring you the very best in safe and emission friendly Euro 4 machines.
No wonder the British market is rocking.
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Post by w650 on Jan 12, 2017 8:33:17 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Jan 11, 2017 14:53:26 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the essence of Euro 4 but it doesn't seem to me it should be a big deal. Victorys all have the same engine and chassis. Now it might be the cost of going through it for each model so I'm betting Polaris just picked representations of each class.
The biggest problem is "how it plays in Peoria". Polaris couldn't beat Harley at their own game so they got on board the game. Now they own the "Oldest Motorcycle Company in America".
That it's been dormant since 1953 doesn't count. That it's been on the gas tanks of Italian mini bikes doesn't count. It's that Indian is as historical as Harley and Polaris is brewing up the same Kool Aid that Harley has. The posers are buying it in droves.
It's a damn shame when good engineering and quality take a back seat to "Mystique". It prevents real, forward thinking from a manufacturer. Harley is letting the Street line languish, stopped building the V-Rod and putting all its eggs in the Milwaukee Eight.
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Post by w650 on Jan 11, 2017 7:19:32 GMT -5
What's saddest to me is that they failed because they didn't have the name. Nothing else. From the very beginning they were better bikes than anything Harley sold. If it said Indian on the tank they would have sold like crazy. Keep in mind that the Harley V-Rod was introduced three years after Victory was launched. It's so much hype in that market.
The Japanese produce better V-Twins but they can't give them away. The Ducati Diavel is a better V-Twin but it's no sales rocket, neither is any Moto Guzzi.
I thought from the very beginning they should have sucked up a better name than Victory. So many ancient bike companies out there that died. Pope, Flying Merkel, Thor, Marsh, Pierce, Ace....
These would have had instant heritage and panache. Victory. That lacked humility for a startup and any connection to the past. Indian already sells more bikes, with what?, a push rod two valve Chief. Hopefully the Freedom 106 motor will land in an Indian and let's see how that sells.
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