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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 18, 2014 21:10:57 GMT -5
Thank you guys. I think I am gonna go the HeliCoil route, so I don't have to get more studs/nuts but I wil let you guys knows how the repair goes.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 16, 2014 9:33:59 GMT -5
Thank you guys this is such a better option then the epoxy. I actually have a bunch of thread taps, I just need to find the right size and a new stud/nut. What is the 10mm studs for 150cc heads? I used the stock studs and its a 139qmb engine so I assume those are 6mm? And all that means I should get the 8mm studs then i'm guessing and i'll have to call around see whos got these parts but thanks again alleyoop your like an encyclopedia of scooter knowledge.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 15, 2014 20:16:21 GMT -5
Ok so idk how this happens but when I was installing my bbk I guess I had over tightened one of the exhaust nuts and it stripped out the threads inside of the of head that holds the studs so I can't even screw in a new stud (I already tried). I guess the stud just fell out right after I mated the frame and engine. So I am kinda stuck on how to fix this and would appreciate any thoughts, ideas, or, advice. This is already a new bigger head so I really don't wanna buy a new one of those. When I took the exhaust nut off the stud I noticed that I could screw off metal shavings kind of? off the stud so my guess that metal was the threads inside of the head. Because of this missing stud/bolt my scoot backfires now other than that it runs good just need new weights but I would really like to fix this backfiring. I am thinking get some high heat epoxy and just putting it all around the exhaust I have no plans on ever removing this exhaust so do you guys think that will seal that hole and solve my backfiring?
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 15, 2014 20:05:12 GMT -5
They will still function but they are half as bright when your scoot's lights are running straight off the stater instead of a good battery on both my scooters AC and DC fired both times I am barely visible at night when my battery is dead I even got a warning one day for not using my blinkers even though I did it's just you couldn't see them they were not bright enough. don't play with headlights . It is a real safety issue . get the lights bright and working . John Yes it is the headlights and the running brake light on my scooter had stopped working one night on my way home since whoever I got it from did not know how to wire anything. Anyway my fiance had taken the scooter the next day and on her way home from work she was in an accident because she was not seen so always make sure you are nice and bright out there people don't pay attention. She was fine a few scratches and bruises but front end on the scooter is pretty much gone, so theres that story always make sure you can be seen
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 15, 2014 10:21:05 GMT -5
Most headlights on China scoots are ran through the ac system not off of the battery . unless u have a DC setup u should be able to start the scoot and disconnect the battery and still have normal functioning headlights . This is kinda an old thread so I hope its taking care of by now . They will still function but they are half as bright when your scoot's lights are running straight off the stater instead of a good battery on both my scooters AC and DC fired both times I am barely visible at night when my battery is dead I even got a warning one day for not using my blinkers even though I did it's just you couldn't see them they were not bright enough.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 15, 2014 1:30:12 GMT -5
If your lights are dim it is definitely because your battery is dead or there is a short somewhere and you are losing alot of power some where else like a ground being disconnected. I have had several lights on my scooters go dim but from my experiences it has always been the battery every time, every time I get a new battery lights work perfectly. But I am sorry to hear your upgrades haven't been going so well. I bought a kit with pretty much the same parts and everything went together nice and smooth even used the 8 gram rollers and they work great for me but im a smaller guy at 150lbs but when me and my fiance ride hills just kill us and can't reach more then 4k rpm so thw 8g roller is a little heavier and iove been doing some reading so im thinking about ordering 8 gram sliders and I think that will be the perfect tuning for me I am pretty positive I need around a 7 gram roller weight 8 is great for myself just not when riding doubles, and even by myself if the incline is really steep I will have a little power issue.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 12, 2014 13:01:22 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info alleyoop all very helpful! Now I live in vegas where I drive all around, so I encounter a mix of stop signs/lights and long stretches although right now I am perfectly happy with my top end and just feel like my acceleration could use a little help but if thats what the spring ratings change then I will most likely stick really close to the stock spring ratings. I am sure once I get some sliders that will solve my problem but right now I am running 8 grams which you said is really heavy so I figure 7 gram rollers is what I need and that being said what weight sliders should I get I am pretty sure I remember them needing to be either a gram lighter or a gram heavier, compared to rollers, but I can't remember can you shed some light on that for me alleyoop?
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 11, 2014 12:43:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the quick reply alleyoop,
But I installed the 8 gram weights because it came with the kit I bought, so I figured that would be the recommended weight for the 50mm piston kit I installed. I have a very accurate scale and I have extra 4.8 and 5.8 gram rollers which I assume are 5 and 6 gram rollers. the 5 grams are stock and the 6 gram weights are from a wrecked 47mm big bore 139qmb. So I will try the 6 gram rollers since you advise this alleyoop, I will let you know how it works out. Although the 8 gram rollers are great for everything else its just hills with me and my fiance which is about 280 lbs combined weight. But alleyoop I have decided to buy a ncy performance transmission kit in about 3 weeks or so, so what spring rates for the small and big springs would you suggest I get? Considering my set up which is performance parts from the 50mm piston all the way up to the carb and air filter. So me and fiance can get some power uphills we encounter them often on the way to our work places. I like you alleyoop your very helpful thank you man!
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 10, 2014 16:00:50 GMT -5
so alleyoop are you saying 139qmb and 1p39qmbs have a 10 mph difference in top end? I think they put out the same power myself but I think its just a game of luck I have had quite a few scooters and just some are really slow and some are pretty quick no matter what parts you put on it. Just my 2 cents. Had a tao tao one time with a 52mm piston and was just as fast as my stock kymco agility 50cc. I am saying those two scoots he has do not have the same motor or one is built up. There is no way a STOCK 139qmb will do 45mph BRO. Stock De-restricted you might get them to do 35 if your lucky. Even folks that put in a 72cc have a hard time getting them to do REAL 40MPH. Most get them to do near 40 around 38 REAL MPH. So whoever says my Stock 139QMB does over 40 is in LA LA LAND and is just kidding himself. Alleyoop oooo OK alleyhoop I got you and you are completely right but yea its still on luck I think you can either get a slow one or a quick one but a stock one is no way gonna go 45 mph (unless it's downhill but downhill doesn't count) maybe on the chinometer it says your doing 50 mph but those things are no good after 30 mph even on my brand new 2014 Icebear is off after 30 mph that's why I use my phone instead. But I have seen stock ones do 45 downhill but on flat road is a whole new ball game pretty lucky if your scoot does anything above 35 mph on flat road stock. My stock Icebear would barely break 35 mph on flat be lucky to 20-25 mph uphill but downhill for some reason its super fast downhill legitimately doing 50 mph on a huge downhill incline stock all I had was a blue racing CDI and feels like you could go faster as longer as the hill got steeper so I was happy with buying that scooter new. Although hills still kill me after upgrading everything in the engine except the crankshaft need new transmission now.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 10, 2014 15:50:43 GMT -5
OK so I just I can't do any more upgrades to the engine except a stroker upgrade which hopefully will be one day in the future so besides buying a crank. Now the scooter is completely great by myself but with my fiance when we go uphills our stock transmission can not take it, together we weigh about 280 lbs. and uphill we lose all power will only go to 4 rpms and about 20-25 mph depending on how much of an incline it is. Besides hills everything is great keep up with traffic with me and her even while I am taking it easy in the break in process. Now I am going to buy all new performance transmission parts (gears, variator, sliders, clutch assembly, etc.) but I have a budget and am wondering what would be the best thing to buy first for under a $100 and get the best deal to solve my problem I am hoping someone can help me out on here. The kit I bought came with 8 gram rollers and I will get sliders pretty soon but I don't think that will solve my problem. I would love to get this but its just so expensive, not even that just too much at once.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 10, 2014 12:34:05 GMT -5
Look at BOTH scoots and tell us the motor each has in them. Those are some big differences in top end speed 1 maybe 35 the other maybe 45. Alleyoop so alleyoop are you saying 139qmb and 1p39qmbs have a 10 mph difference in top end? I think they put out the same power myself but I think its just a game of luck I have had quite a few scooters and just some are really slow and some are pretty quick no matter what parts you put on it. Just my 2 cents. Had a tao tao one time with a 52mm piston and was just as fast as my stock kymco agility 50cc.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 10, 2014 12:28:26 GMT -5
I am having trouble finding much information on that engine but if its a gy6 most of the bolt ons should fit exhaust i have no idea but you can definitely get some sliders just figure out what weights you have already and a upgraded coil/ spark plug shouldn't be a problem to get your hands on, and you have to figure out if your stator is AC or DC fired this is very important when when picking out a CDI. Most chinese brands are AC fired stators but alot of other brands like to choose DC fired. now you should be able to get a carb to put on but again you must figure out what size carb and main jet you already have to know which is an upgrade. If you add an air/ filter or exhaust you are most likely going to have to increase the main jet one size.m I wish I could help you more but thats just a pretty rare engine but it is a gy6 so i assume most bolts ons will fit. But you know what happens when you assume
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 9, 2014 16:16:35 GMT -5
The EGR is to make sure that the unburned oil/gas vapors return to the airbox to go through the carb again to be burned instead of going into the atmosphere but it is not needed and can be removed and is something I always remove from all my scooters because all that stuff is just a pain and requires the stock airbox to work. so what I do is is remove all those extra hoses and cap off that metal pipe ontop of the valve cover with a custom tab of aluminum that I shape with a bench grinder. but for the best bang for your buck to get your scoot out of the bike lane is this package for $175 if you have 139qmb but if you have a 1p39qmb than make sure you get 69mm valves. premium power pack I bought this for my scooter the exhaust required a little modification but if your mechanically inclined this package will be no problem I have gotten double the power and I am still in the process of breaking it in and still keep up with traffic while i am taking it super easy.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 9, 2014 15:53:00 GMT -5
idk about that engine but I was able to find a "premium power pack" for a 139qmb engine on ebay for $175 consisted off performance head, big bore kit, carburetor, main jet, oil pump, cdi, exhaust and I think thats everything might be forgetting somerthing but I am sure you can find something like that for your engine on ebay the parts I got were also of quality and feels more solid than it did when it was brand new just sharing my experience you have a way different engine your results may be different.
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Post by greentoker26 on Nov 9, 2014 15:42:27 GMT -5
Thank you scooter! That's exactly what I was talking about and looking for I am definitely gonna pick one of those bottles up that even looks like I can split my fuel line and add some stop valves so I can just switch to the bottle when my tank runs low. Thank you!
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