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Post by george112 on Sept 17, 2014 15:32:55 GMT -5
On the stock air filter it has that tube with 4 holes in it to allow air in. It also has a small hole in the middle of those. I put duct tape over 2 of the bigger holes and it cured the bogging issue.
It was running just fine like that, until yesterday when I decided to adjust the screw again so as to get rid of the duct tape.
From the duct tape fixing the problem i concluded that too much air was getting in and not enough fuel. Am i right to think that? I took the tape off yesterday while it was idling and tried to adjust the screw according to instruction I found on this site. I went Counter Clockwise 1/4th turn and waited. Nothing happened so I returned to starting point. Then I went 1/4th turn Clockwise and it died about 8 seconds later. I have not gotten the scoot running since that time
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Post by george112 on Sept 17, 2014 15:04:29 GMT -5
The bogging happens about when I get to 20 mph. I can give it WOT at take off and do just fine. but as soon as it hits about 20 mph it'll bog the motor down. If i gradually get up to speed there is no bogging.
I put the duct tape on the air intake and it cured the bogging down. I checked everything for leaks as far as cracks and what not, but I will double check. The scooter was running fine until i decided to try and adjust the air/fuel screw.
I will take pictures after work.
Thanks for the help.
I have a Honda motorsports store up the road from here that sell Ruckus' . Ill give them a shot for the filter.
Also I wanted to add something about the air filter. Not all the screws are in it actually holding it together. Maybe one or 2 is missing. It is a stock box. But like i said it ran no problem without those with no duct tape or bogging when i first got it
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Post by george112 on Sept 17, 2014 13:57:34 GMT -5
Is there a place to buy a smaller fuel filter? Like a physical store? Or do i have to resort to buying online?
Also would this cause the bogging? I thought that had to do with running lean. I am just trying to understand that way I know what to attack and try first
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Post by george112 on Sept 17, 2014 13:32:06 GMT -5
Thank you for the response.
I have already tried that. I have tried 2 1/2 turns out. 2 turns out. 3 turns. 1 turn everything. It just does not want to start right now. I can sometimes get it close, but it only last for a second then nothing.
I think it has something to do with maybe my fuel. too much?? because of the bigger filter?? Or my valves need to be adjusted with a feeler gauge??
Idk at this point
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Post by george112 on Sept 17, 2014 11:00:53 GMT -5
Alright my 50cc has been driving me crazy these past few days. I will layout what I have done so far to the scooter, and then the symptoms
So far I have:
Replaced fuel filter with one I got from home depot. It was meant for a riding lawn mower, its a lot bigger than the one I took off the scooter when I got it
Put fresh gas in
As well as some Seafoam
I purchased a carb rebuild kit and replaced the float and the needle that goes into the diaphragm. I also cleaned the carb out really well
I tried adjusting the valves using an aluminum can. (I know this is a no no, but hear me out first)
I tried adjusting the fuel/air mixture screw.
These ^^^^ are in no particular chronological order, but I will say that i messed with the fuel/air mixture screw BEFORE i tried adjusting the valves
Okay now the symptoms.
The scooter was running OKAY before I even did anything to it. It would start on about the second try, but the guy I got it from said he was using starter fluid to get it started as IT HAD BEEN SITTING FOR ATLEAST A YEAR. I never had to use it though
So I had it running on the center stand and moved the air/fuel mixture screw OUT. This was the first time I had messed with it, and EVER SINCE THEN my scooter has been giving me . It would be very very hard to start after that which is what prompted me to try and adjust the valves. Also when I would come to stops all my lights would flicker and the scooter wanted to die it seemed
Then my carb rebuild kit came in and I replaced the float and the needle. Took it out for a spin and noticed it was bogging when I would gas it full throttle. So Im thinking okay its running lean, i tried and tried to adjust the air/fuel mixture screw but to no avail. FINALLY i just put a piece of duct tape over 2 of the intake holes. Boom. Fixed the problem
So I did adjust the valves and I thought I fixed the problem. It would start on the first try and everything was great for almost a week until yesterday.
I took it for a spin yesterday, it cranked first try and everything was good. However I have noticed what appears to be white smoke coming out of my exhaust when it is idling. Like little puffs that eventually add up to being a cloud. Not thick, as you can see through it fine, but you can definitely say its white smoke.
Well after my spin I got tired of it having that duct tape on there and wanted to adjust the air/fuel screw again to eliminate that problem. It died and it took me nearly 2 hours to get it started again. I wrote down the instructions on how to adjust the screw and tried to follow them perfectly.
It was warmed up and I started by going 1/4th turn COUNTER CLOCKWISE. I waited 10-15 seconds and it seemed like nothing happened.
So I turned it back to where I started and waited another 10-15 seconds. Then I turned it 1/4th turn CLOCKWISE waited about 10-15 seconds and it died. I HAVENT GOTTEN IT STARTED SINCE.
I put the screw back tried to start it. Wouldn't crank.
I pulled the valve cover off and checked those. Wouldn't crank
I sat there forever seeming to check everything and it just won't start. Not even by kick.
I do notice though that when I am trying to start it, I smell like a fuel type smell. Is that normal?
This scoot is driving me nuts. Please help
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Post by george112 on Sept 15, 2014 12:58:34 GMT -5
I just ran across a 2007 Kymco People 250 for $500.
Seller says it runs great, just has some cosmetic blemishes here and there. Also the speedometer and odometer do not work.
Is this a good deal? I have done my research and it seems like this would be considered as an almost "too good to be true" type sale.
Your thoughts?
I really appreciate everyones opinions
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Post by george112 on Sept 13, 2014 19:17:34 GMT -5
Thank you Ken. I really do appreciate it.
My scoot is definitely a lot of fun to drive. It has literally turned into a full blown hobby in just 2 short weeks. I have just as much fun working on the scooter as I do riding it.
I really want to tackle the BBK I keep reading about!
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Post by george112 on Sept 13, 2014 18:43:40 GMT -5
Thank you.
You in particular are actually the reason I joined. I had taken your posts about adjusting valves and air/fuel mixture screw adjustment and printed them out to read while I worked on the scooter. Really helped a lot. Thanks again
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Post by george112 on Sept 13, 2014 12:46:02 GMT -5
Hey guys, new member here! Finally decided to create an account after lurking of the past 2 weeks. Im a 23 year old from Texas who just recently purchased his first scooter used 2 weeks ago . My scoot isn't much to look at, but with the help of this forum I have got her running like a champ.
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