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Post by spandi on May 8, 2014 9:07:35 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this. It's one I won't be forgetting.
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Post by spandi on May 8, 2014 9:05:27 GMT -5
Leo I think your problem may be solved. Last night I was spraying my replacement front fairing with Rustoleum primer for plastic, letting it sit for about an hour before checking on it. Anyways, I had laid down a PLASTIC tarp before painting it (Got that?) when I went to check it I was in bare feet, and after looking it over and seeing no runs, drips, or major imperfections, decided to go back in and found to my surprise that the tarp was GLUED TO MY FEET!  If this stuff sticks to your tire anywhere as well as it glued the tarp to my feet you should have no worries.  |
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Post by spandi on May 8, 2014 1:07:08 GMT -5
Leo I laugh every time I see some Alta Kaka trying to be 25 (and thinking everyone is fooled) when they're 70 by driving around in a Corvette. He was probably in a rush cause Maalox was on sale at Wally-World At least you had one of the "chosen people" to give him a piece of YOUR mind....OY GEVALT!
OY and THEN SOME, y'all! LOL!Hang in there my friend! And keep your feet tucked in...Leo Thanks!....You too Leo!  (at least you were able to use it as "inspiration" for another of your ironically hilarious stories!) |
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Post by spandi on May 7, 2014 19:30:51 GMT -5
Leo I laugh every time I see some Alta Kaka trying to be 25 (and thinking everyone is fooled) when they're 70 by driving around in a Corvette. He was probably in a rush cause Maalox was on sale at Wally-World At least you had one of the "chosen people" to give him a piece of YOUR mind....OY GEVALT! |
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Post by spandi on May 7, 2014 14:17:23 GMT -5
Two brave guys. (and from real life and not the movies) I'll call it a draw. These guys were both as macho as they come! They both could chew horseshoes and spit nails...
And, yeah... Those rounds Pancho is wearing are a little "large" for a handgun... LOL! Look like maybe for a Browning .50 but I'm not sure the old "Ma Deuce" was even invented yet, during Pancho's day... A good question for the dedicated firearms historians on the site! Leo in Texas Leo I don't think the M2 was out until after the war (but the cartridges might be 45-70) BTW, I'm going to "compromise" and get a Teddy bear with Bandoleros |
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Post by spandi on May 6, 2014 15:08:19 GMT -5
So after the primer is fully dry why not try painting it with Dr Whitewall?  The "Dr." dries with horrid brush-strokes, and is so thick it ruins the factory markings. The primer (IF it works) looks just like a factory whitewall. The look is great, but it's yet to be seen if it will stay put. Good idea though!Leo Again Leo, I thought I'd send the idea out, but I do think the white spray primer alone will work. However, based on what I've read it will take more than one or two coats to pull it off, and end up with a solid white color. |
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Post by spandi on May 5, 2014 19:03:41 GMT -5
A friend up north use to do this professionally and it involved two tools one to rotate the wheel on the vehicle and another with a sanding drum to dress a rabbit/groove in the sidewall to put the whitewall in. I believe he had to take at least a 64th to a 32nd of an inch off to have success and could not go too far from the bead to where the tire flexed as it rolled.
To do it professionally, that sounds like the ONLY proper way. Fake whitewalls are used mostly on cars that don't get a lot of use, but with scooters and motorcycles, we tend to "test" the paint to the max. Fortunately, our lightweight rides don't flex the tires as much as cars... LOL! I've seen articles stating that all factory scooter whitewalls are actually painted, but that is not the case. My Shinko front tire definitely has the whitewall molded into the tire. The "Dr. Whitewall" product I used originally is very tough, but adhesion is the big variable. This Rustleum plastic primer seems to really STICK, but only time will tell if it's TOUGH... Thanks for the info! Leo So after the primer is fully dry why not try painting it with Dr Whitewall? |
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Post by spandi on May 5, 2014 11:34:18 GMT -5
Two brave guys. (and from real life and not the movies) I'll call it a draw.
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Post by spandi on May 4, 2014 20:29:50 GMT -5
Spandi,
I found BOTH Rustoleum, AND Krylon flat, white PLASTIC primer and got both. As soon as I can, I'll try one on one side, and one on the other, and run them a while and see what happens. I'll see if either brand is better, and if either one works on my tire at all. What a pain to simply put a 2" white stripe on a rear wheel, but it makes SUCH a difference in the appearance of the scooter! To me at least, it's worth it. I'll post my experiences...Leo Great idea Leo! Now everyone interested in "homemade" whitewalls will get the benefit of your product evaluation. (You'll find out which works best for sure) Leo, You're going to end up the "Consumer Reports" of Scooterdom!  |
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Post by spandi on May 3, 2014 16:53:21 GMT -5
Damn it must suck to be you!!!  All that glitters is not gold..... Cherish your health, live life to the fullest. That said I'm the luckiest "gimp" on the planet! Stay well my friends Nope, sometimes it's silver! ....and speaking of "silver" it seems his dealer likes it as much as he does! But seriously ENJOY that 300 (I'm sure you will) |
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Post by spandi on May 3, 2014 16:40:53 GMT -5
Spandi,
THANKS for the heads-up! This fellow is onto something. The plastic primer should be the most likely to stick of any paint I can think of. Even he had a few peels, and fine cracks. Most likely his tires were relatively new too. My local Wally World has both Rustoleum AND Krylon. I believe I WILL try one of these! Can't be any worse than the other stuff... LOL! Probably much better! If it only does some minor peel, touching up would be easy. Eventually, you'd get the whole thing white for good... Thanks again!Leo You're quite welcome Leo! I only hope I works for you. In the article he said he had only minor cracking in the paint that could be easily touched up as needed. Hope it works as well for Minnie! |
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Post by spandi on May 3, 2014 0:26:13 GMT -5
Spandi,
THAT would be another excellent possibility. It is made to stick to weird plastic! Could be it would work. I'm seeing that NEW tires are "problematical" while OLD tires probably could take most any but very brittle paint. But I surely like the way these NEW tires ride! LOL! Leo (trying all SORTS of stuff...) in Texas I figured this might work for you as he has had them painted for over a year, and being a car probably had it at highway speeds (70+) plenty of times. |
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Post by spandi on May 2, 2014 19:01:34 GMT -5
That's the thing about living in SoCal, it can get hotter than the blazes. (I had to modify my cooling system because of it) |
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Post by spandi on May 2, 2014 17:43:10 GMT -5
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Post by spandi on May 2, 2014 1:32:46 GMT -5
Spandi,
I'm pretty sure the product I used is the same stuff. It gets "private-labeled" under several names. The product is amazing. The pieces I peeled off are as tough as a balloon. Problem is, it just did not stick to the NEW tire. The instructions DO plainly state the tire must be ground down to fresh rubber, and particularly recommend using it on OLDER, sun-baked tires. That would make a big difference! Today, I spent an hour at the spray wash, and was able to blast off EVERY bit of the painted whitewalls. So NOW, I have a fresh, new tire to start over on again... LOL! Hopefully the extreme detergent blasting removed most of the "schmootz" that oozes from the new tire construction. I was going to try Zinsser white primer, but it too is a latex, water-based product. Any residual oils oozing from the new tire may do a repeat performance. I then remembered as a kid, I had good results painting whitewalls with original RUSTOLEUM enamel. The secret to Rustoleum was fish-oil as its main ingredient for "universal-coverage-anti-rust" properties. And it stuck to ANYTHING! Never cracked, never peeled. The oil-base paint seemed to be able to cover surfaces that should not take paint. So... I'm going to try it on the new tire (One side ONLY at first as a test)... The scooter looks somewhat "weird" with a whitewall up front and a blackwall in back... Thankfully, the rear tire is not all that noticeable... I'll report on how it works...More soon, Leo in Texas Well Leo I thought it might be worth a shot. Btw, in some of the listings, some of the guys reported good results with of all things white Primer! (go figure!) |
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