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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2016 20:36:08 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Mar 6, 2016 22:40:03 GMT -5
 zms2004 While it should start with no air box it's a bad thing to run without one for sure, if the other owner didn't adjust the carb for this it will for sure be very lean on the fuel mixture. If he ran it long without a filter box this may be a signal to the low compression if it was ran in a dirty environment long because dirt will eat the rings up. I have a wiring diagram for this scooter when you get to the wiring and also if you have a spark buying a CDI is a waste of time and money because this is the thing that along with the coil gives you a spark. Also this is a DC type CDI meaning that it gets it voltage from the battery and not the stator. If the battery is below 10.5Vdc it will be a very poor erratic spark, make sure the battery is 12.7 Vdc or above. If you have spark the next step is to see if you are getting fuel, if it's been jury rigged on the wiring and the air filter is gone then it's highly possible the carb is crap too. JR
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Post by JR on Mar 6, 2016 12:06:00 GMT -5
First of all yelloscoot your scooter is a copy of the famous Honda Reflex and if you put it side by side you would note that every body panel would interchange. Honda prided itself on putting enough screws/bolts on the scooter so it wouldn't rattle or break from vibrations going down the road and the plastics on the Reflex even though of better quality if you take note of all the pressure points of how the scooter is made needs plenty of support as far as fastening goes. The Chinese in the early years made plastics of poor quality and they were famous for coming apart due to lack of proper fastening, they have done better in recent years. I know it's a PITB to remove all the stuff to work on it but all the good quality PDI work you are doing will stop this in the long run. If you take note of Taiwan's Sym Citicom 300i www.alliancepowersports.com/models/citycom.htmlyou'll see a similar design and I can assure you they will have it bolted up very well. Now I'm going to also mention this the vertical engine 250 scooter that you have is a copy of the Reflex just as the horizontal one I have with the linhai and I know for a fact that the larger 120/70/13 tire on the front works on both scooters. But I do not know about the rear 140/60/13 on the vertical engine. Some scooters with the vertical 250 came with a 10" rear tire like on the Bali 250 which is a copy of the long ago Honda Foresight scooter. This scooter was limited to one tire size on the rear. If you take note right below the posting area here I have a section listed as Where do you need to go? In this section one can choose the Tires Size Calc and hit select and put the tire sizes in and get the exact OD and width measurements of a tire. This is the calculations of the 130/60/13 versus the 140/60/13: www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=130-60r13-140-60r13With my linhai I had about 3/4" clearance between the tire and the crankcase with the 130/60/13 tire and now with the 140/60/13 I have about 3/8" clearance. There is now issue with the width clearing the shocks et. The wider tire looks cool and grips the road very well and has a softer ride. So you will need to check the current clearance you have between the tire and the crankcase on the vertical engine to see if the larger tire will work. When I put the tire on I have to tie the shock up out of my way and let the air out of the tire to get it to clear when installing it then re-inflate it when bolted up. JR |
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Post by JR on Mar 5, 2016 23:13:05 GMT -5
surfnty For sure tortoise has hit upon a source of your troubles because if the fuel pump isn't keeping up at higher/demand/speeds the mikuni fuel pump will cure your problems. I have them on my scooters and never have fuel delivery problems. JR
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2016 20:41:00 GMT -5
rock73 I like to run about 31psi in my tires for a softer ride. JR
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2016 14:12:39 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2016 13:07:15 GMT -5
Bintelli - Justin I would like to see a better owner manual platform for the Bintelli scooters other than the one manual fits all platform along with wiring diagrams. If every single model has the same diagram then that's fine but I rarely see that happen? Same with the owner's manual, you have a 150cc manual for all scooters and it would be nice to see a service manual too for the newbies. JR
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2016 10:59:57 GMT -5
I Just added the Honda Manual list. I've been working on this list for over a year and I consider it one of the best worldwide lists of Honda scooters available but I still am looking for a very elusive manual that is needed and it's the short lived Big Rukus manual. got the small Rukus but they only made the Big Rukus a short time and they will for sure be a collector's scoot one day. I've got the hard to find Metropolitan and even harder to find Reflex but not the Big Rukus. If anyone has a source I would appreciate knowing along with the sister to the Metropolitan the Wave scooter manual. itistheride.boards.net/thread/9196/honda-scooter-manualsJR |
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2016 6:29:28 GMT -5
yelloscoot rock73 The larger tire sizes are 140/60/13 rear and 120/70/13 front. I do not like the wider tire on the front that's why I use the 12/70/13 on the front, it has the same OD as the 140/60/13 but narrower and with the larger tires one gains about 3mph back in speedometer accuracy. I HAVE NOT tried this with the vertical engine just the horizontal Linhai. JR
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Post by JR on Feb 25, 2016 22:04:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the links JR . This would be a good weekend project. I need to watch some videos on soldering. I have a little cheapo iron from H.F. which does pretty good (actually four of them), but keeping the tips clean has always been my problem. Maybe I need to get the sponge and copper cleaner thingamajig . ( that's actually a real word...hmmm).  I did pick up their rolling stool with the tool tray. That did come in very handy during the PDI. Being able to scoot around and have my tools handy was a huge convenience. I checked the connector link you provided and have it bookmarked now. That's a good resource to have on hand. I also see the tape around the alligator clips, in the photo, when soldering to keep them from deforming. I hadn't thought of that, and, am guilty of that in the past. This should be enough to keep me busy for a while this weekend. I really want to get the bugs worked out of the electrical system. I can't help but feel I did something that caused the Gremlins to appear by working around so many wires and connectors. Even when being careful there's always a chance of pulling something loose. But, soldering all the connections and checking the integrity of each clip should resolve the issues. oldchopperguy Okay Leo, at least, think about it. You know how much fun you could have every weekend. I enjoy tinkering with the scoots. Gives me something to do. I'm learning something new with every little issue that comes up. There's just so many. That's most of them at the start of this adventure. Thankfully most of which have been taken care of. But others have come up since I started that list. But I enjoy the challenge and solving problems. That's one thing I like about Chinese scoots. Come on Leo...think about it.  Loren Key thing to make soldiering easy is a small tip iron, letting it get good and hot and very small soldier like is used in electronics. You can use a little steel wire brush to keep the tip clean, if you use good soldier you won't have to clean it very often. 60/40 electronic soldier is best. JR |
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Post by JR on Feb 25, 2016 21:13:47 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Feb 25, 2016 11:09:59 GMT -5
Ok yelloscoot it's time to stop the electrical gremlin with the plugin system on the R/R toothpicks aren't going to cut it and you're going to be on the road with a dead battery or a burned up R/R  So let's go over what is wrong with the plug other than it's Chinese and how to fix the problem. First thing to do is watch this video from the video tech board on how to remove the pins one at a time from the male and female plugs, the plug is a little different in the video but the removal is the same on your plugs: itistheride.boards.net/thread/8326/remove-single-wire-electrical-plugAs you can see the pin will pull out easily and by prying the little locking tab out you can put it back in easily and lock it back into place. Now I've seen two things on these pins that make the plugs lose good connections and this one may be your problem and it's simple the pin male or female may not be locked in good because it is not locked into the plug good and when you push the plugs together it is actually moving the one back while making a temporary connection when plugged in after a little riding it moves more and loses connection. Since you are using toothpicks this may be your case. Another thing is on the female plug I've seen the female part spread open and not make good connection with the male when it's plugged in. By inspecting each pin you can see if there is a issue with the locking tab or a problem with the pin making it lose connection. You can also use a tiny eyeglasses screwdriver instead of a paper clip to remove the pins. I do one at a time and lock each pin back before I move to another one. Now here is another problem I've found with Chinese plugins. Each wire has a locking pin connector for the plug and the Chinese are famous for not removing the wire rubber insulating at the end of the wire well sometimes and when they crimp the metal pin on the wire is actually not touching the metal properly and simply put it will pass no current. Here is a picture or a pin connector that is being installed properly:  You can clearly see how the wired is peeled enough so when the pin is crimped on there will be a quality connection to the wire. The red arrow is where the wire should be uncovered from the wire insulation but sometimes the Chinese will not peel the wire and just crimp the connector on and that will make a bad connection. The blue arrow is where the wire is crimped to just add support to the wire and generally is just crimped on the wire with the insulating rubber on too. If I find one that isn't making good connection like in the picture I simple take my pocket knife and peel the top insulation on the wire off right at the pin and solve it like this:  I know this takes a little of time but I soldier every single plug pin male and female alike in the electric charging systems on my scooters. One little spot of soldier and lock it back in place and never have a issue again. I soldier mine good connection or not. Now if you get in this and find a complete mess don't worry, this is a great company that can sell you a complete new plugin kit that you can rebuild the entire system with: www.oregonmotorcycleparts.com/connectors.htmlGet the plastic off out of the way......again and fix this before it leaves you stranded out on the road.  JR |
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Post by JR on Feb 24, 2016 17:12:56 GMT -5
Go to court pay the fees/fines and be done,,, much nicer and worth it to be clean and done with this kind of thing,,, OP,,, you're probably a nice person ,, but riding an untagged/ expired tag, unregistered bike with a suspended license is just asking for trouble,, and can lead to some hefty fines,, my son got a chickenshit bumper mounted towing ball obscuring the license plate ticket,,, he blew it off didn't pay the ticket,,, after a failure to appear warrant was issued he still drove,,, the court contacted the DMV and suspended his license,,, yep you guessed it,,, BINGO he won the prize,,, had a tail light bulb out and got pulled over,,, he was arrested his truck got impounded, his license suspended for a year,, truck impound fees over $700,,, fines and court fees,,, well over $3000,,, lost wages who knows,,, pain in my left nut every time he needs a ride,,, but don't ask me ask my wife cause I ain't playin,,, I didn't bail him out she did,,, all for a $120 ticket and laziness,,, now he has to pay one of his friends he works with to drive him around,,, nice,,, Self remind me to NEVER cover my license plate in California! |
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Post by JR on Feb 24, 2016 17:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Feb 24, 2016 0:50:10 GMT -5
Interesting link JR. But, the link is to an article from 2012, and, it looks like the Indiana Legislature has changed the law since then. This change of law may make JR's link meaningless, and it makes my brain hurt.  So, I am out of this thread. I'm sure the law has indeed changed but I used this as only a reference as to the fact the Indiana Supreme Court had a issue with the license part of the law. But here is one unescapable fact by the OP's own words, he was stopped riding a scooter with no tags which is a violation of the new current law and since he was stopped for a valid moving violation the officer had the right to check things out and take further action if he deemed necessary by the laws of the State of Indiana. Now if the officer did charge him with other things then as stated it will be up to a court to decide what action to take. Also by the OP's own words his license was suspended and I can think of lot's or reasons people get their license suspended and further more ride a 50cc scooter because it is the only thing they can ride on a public highway other than a bicycle so we can assume this member has had a run-in with the law before if we read between the lines. Lastly this is a fact and you don't need a lawyer to know this, doesn't make a hoot that the DMV didn't know what to do to tag this member's scooter, he still road the scooter with no tags which is a violation of the law so one can use the "two wrongs make a right" theory here and even if the other charges are dropped I'm betting the no tag one will not be, that's a no brainer. The member willfully by his own admission rode the scooter with no tags. IMO this is one of the things that give the 50cc scooter a bad rap and it's a shame, I own a 50cc scooter along with others and I still enjoy riding it. JR |
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