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Post by floridagull on Jul 30, 2016 10:32:52 GMT -5
So, some may recall that my son's electric bicycle and my Baccio VX150 were stolen about 2 weeks ago from our home...   My son has replaced his electric bicycle with a Baccio Heat 50 scooter - www.modcycles.com/baccio-heat50 - now, he just needs to take his road test and get his license... My wife and I went to see this - treasure.craigslist.org/mcy/5652977376.html - a 150cc scooter in very good condition. We wanted to like it - but, the weight capacity just wasn't enough for us... Started and ran really well - when I took it out myself, it was fine - but, with 2-up, the side stand/center stand would scrape the street a bit during turns - alas - not good enough for 2-up... Had the same size tires as my son's Baccio - 3.5 x 10 - and, was about the same size frame (maybe a touch longer, but not much). A really nice scooter, but not for 2 real sized people...  So, the search continues...  If any of you good people are looking for a small-frame 150cc in great shape, and are within striking distance of this bike, IMHO it is a very good one...  Scoot On!  |
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Post by tortoise on Jul 30, 2016 11:24:14 GMT -5
Just curious . . are the first 3 characters of the VIN . . LFF? |
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Post by floridagull on Jul 30, 2016 11:57:56 GMT -5
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Post by tortoise on Jul 30, 2016 12:22:44 GMT -5
L9N is a TaoTao WMI. Other than the graphics stickers, wonder what elements are actually different from the ATM50-A1? |
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Post by floridagull on Jul 30, 2016 12:48:52 GMT -5
The Tao Tao has 100/60 x 10 tires - the Baccio, 3.5 x 10 - are these equivalent? The ad you linked to for the Tao Tao says a 250 lb weight capacity - the specs from Mod Cycles for the Baccio say 225...Tao Tao's website says 225 as well...  The Baccio's speedometer is calibrated (?) in MPH, which is nice -  - the Tao Tao is in km... Seem pretty much the same... This is what Mod Cycles has to say about their Baccio scooters: "Our products are manufactured under our own specifications. We set the guides, elements and conditions the factories will use manufacturing our products, using the best quality components available. This gives our customers the best value for their money, with products that are of high quality at an affordable price."  |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jul 30, 2016 19:41:43 GMT -5
Floridagull,
I too went through the "2-up" problem with 150's. They are fine for the 5' 8" 130 pound guy and his 5' 2" 100 pound gal, but as you found, they're just not up to carrying two "full-size" folks. Seven years back, I occasionally rode 2-up with my missus. I'm 6' 1" and 230 pounds, she's 5' 1" and 130 pounds and it was CROWDED on the Xingyue 150. SLOW, also...
I get the impression you are like me, in liking the overall size, style and handling of the "generic Chinese step-through 150" scoots. That was a major factor in my choice of an outdated Kymco Grandvista 250... It's nearly identical to my old Xingyue in size and configuration, just a tad heavier... But, it has a big, comfy seat for two and the power to haul two adults.
Today, there are very few liquid-cooled 250/300 step-through scoots still in production. They are just not popular, but for us who like the concept of a Chinese 150 in a heavy-duty version for 2-up at 65 mph, and also at slow city-street speeds, they just fill the need to perfection.
Off-hand, the only scoots like this I can think of are either from Taiwan or Italy. My old Kymco Grandvista with 18K miles on the clock has proven to be reliable and nearly "bullet-proof". They quit making them around 2009, and now can be found in great shape for around $1,500 or even less.
I also found some nice Vespas for a little more. I think you would be MUCH happier with a 250 for your tandem riding, and, you CAN find (especially older used ones) that mimic the Chinese 150 in look and feel. Maybe 100 pounds heavier but that is negligible and steadies the scooter. And the 250cc power and torque is REALLY pleasing (especially 2-up on a hill...).
I'd really encourage you to check out old-style used 250's from Vespa, Kymco, SYM and similar. They're not the least bit intimidating to transition to from a 150... They all hold up well, and have a lot of life left after 20K miles. And now, they're getting quite affordable.
Just a thought, from my own experience.
Ride safe,
Leo in Texas
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Post by rockynv on Aug 2, 2016 3:54:23 GMT -5
The 150 setup with a single shock like a 50cc bike is only rated for 220 or so lbs which is not much good riding double except for a couple of children who legally won't be able to ride it since a 150 requires a motorcycle license in Florida.
I had the same issue with my Lance Vintage 150 since it was a single shock bike based on a 50cc frame that although it was plenty big enough barely had the capacity to carry myself and my lunch box.
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Post by mrsunsett on Aug 3, 2016 1:35:38 GMT -5
When ever i ride with my wife on the honda pcx i got... it is really only noticeable that i have another person on me when we start from a stop... i guess thats honda though... i feel like the extra weight grounds me more while driving, everything besides railroad tracks feels smooth, like small bumps... but when im on small sections of highway to just skip the stop signs galore of broward county, i wish i had a 250.. the forza.. the gas consumption is awful compared to the pcx... but the top out and extra torque would be nice.. im biased though vause yall suggested i go with the 150 in the first place when i asked you guys what i should ride.
150 is fine.. even when my wife and i combine at 400lbs on the scooter. Maybe i am not critical enough about it, also in florida... hills only exsist when you're going over a bridge
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Post by rockynv on Aug 3, 2016 3:58:13 GMT -5
The Aprilia 150's and above have over 460 lbs weight capacity however if you ride at speeds over 40 mph regularly the fuel economy advantage of most 150cc bike evaporates. My 250 on my 45 to 55 mph commute to work gets much better fuel economy than my 150 ever did riding the same route.
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