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Post by ucwt on Jul 6, 2016 21:25:56 GMT -5
Hello all. New old guy in Michigan Just picked up a wildfire WFH50-s2p with 1100 miles on it from a Craig's list ad and rode it home about 60 miles enjoying every minute. Will definitely be trolling throughout the threads to discover all kinds of hopup knowledge but will appreciate Any links to speed mods done already for my scoot . Thanks in advance .
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Post by tortoise on Jul 6, 2016 22:05:03 GMT -5
139QMB 50cc 4-stroke?
Depending on your speed preferences . . even the 50mph GY6 150cc engines are marginal for highway use.
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Post by ucwt on Jul 6, 2016 22:09:20 GMT -5
Yes 50cc . I plan on either a large piston, jug and head or a whole swap to larger displacement but for the summer I'll just tinker and love the 50 for now .
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Post by thecollector on Jul 7, 2016 13:21:34 GMT -5
Congratulations on the new scoot. There are many who are on this board that have much more experience than I do. I have a 150cc that has been modified quite a bit and goes much faster than it did bone stock.
Please do not take this the wrong way. You remind me a bit of someone in my scooter group who got a 50cc but wants it to go faster than it does. He wrecked his and just bought another. He had the chance to get a bigger one, and actually could have saved some money, but he has it in his mind that he wants a 50cc but just a really fast one.
The way the 50cc's are set up is that they are designed to conform to DMV laws so they will not exceed 40 mph. If you did get yours to exceed 40 mph, and you can fairly easily, you are technically breaking the law. I just want you to know that. Hypothetically, if a cop caught you going 50 mph in a 35 mph zone and you did not have motorcycle plates and a motorcycle endorsed driver's license you could be in a heap of trouble.
I'll also mention I have another friend who has a few scoots and has modified his Honda Metropolitan (and he's lowered it, too) that is really cool and goes pretty fast. He's an adult, we don't tell him he's doing something wrong, but he knows it and seems willing to take that amount of risk.
When you say "jug" do you mean a different carburetor? Sounds like you are on the right track. However, based on my experience and my friend's with the Metro, there are other ways to achieve more speed. The same carb with a larger main jet coupled with a less restrictive airbox go together. The ratio of fuel and air should be about the same as before, but more of both. My experience is that an improved exhaust does wonders. Also an upgrade to the CVT's variator, I'm told, is one of the best upgrades you can do to a 50cc.
Anyone else want to chime in?
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jul 7, 2016 19:37:42 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum. Fast is relative.
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Post by ucwt on Jul 7, 2016 22:49:58 GMT -5
Jug is what you'd commonly refer to as cylinder, me it's a jug.
Thanks for the refresher on the cash grab known as motor vehicle code but being an "adult" I am fully aware of actions vs. consequences.
I too could have bought a 150 but it is easier to hop up a big body 50 than it is to find Someone willing to give me a certificate of origin stating the 150 is a 50. Besides who wants to pay the state for a "legal" 150 when you could buy speed parts with the money saved on an "illegal" 50.
With the utmost certainty I will crash, eventually. I had an epic crash with my gas engine bicycle but that's for another forum...
Let's face it if you get caught doing 50 in a 35 on or in anything you're just stupid anyway.
Thanks for the welcomes, I'm looking forward to links and information on quick and easy mods on how to make my 50 quicker and faster for the summer, seeing I am not versed in scooters yet, So I can possibly crash at breakneck speed, Until I go full rouge "illegal" and swap out for bigger displacement .
Anyone else wanna chime in?
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Post by thecollector on Jul 8, 2016 11:07:56 GMT -5
Jug is what you'd commonly refer to as cylinder, me it's a jug. Thanks for the refresher on the cash grab known as motor vehicle code but being an "adult" I am fully aware of actions vs. consequences. I too could have bought a 150 but it is easier to hop up a big body 50 than it is to find Someone willing to give me a certificate of origin stating the 150 is a 50. Besides who wants to pay the state for a "legal" 150 when you could buy speed parts with the money saved on an "illegal" 50. With the utmost certainty I will crash, eventually. I had an epic crash with my gas engine bicycle but that's for another forum... Let's face it if you get caught doing 50 in a 35 on or in anything you're just stupid anyway. Thanks for the welcomes, I'm looking forward to links and information on quick and easy mods on how to make my 50 quicker and faster for the summer, seeing I am not versed in scooters yet, So I can possibly crash at breakneck speed, Until I go full rouge "illegal" and swap out for bigger displacement . Anyone else wanna chime in? Cool. I can see you're not stupid and you know what you're doing. I feel better that I gave you a warning just in case you might have overlooked something. Perhaps you overlooked what I said about jet, airbox, variator and exhaust but I'm sure people will "chime in" will all those links and information. Good Luck.
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Post by ucwt on Jul 8, 2016 23:02:35 GMT -5
Not overlooked.
Breather, jet/pickup tube and variator are the firsts.
Been trolling around trying to guesstimate which springs, weights and rollers vs. slides and the rest will come after.
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Post by JR on Jul 9, 2016 7:10:52 GMT -5
ucwt I can see that you've got off to a good start and now that you've figured out what you are going to do please start a thread in the 50to 200cc section to work on your scooter. And we love pictures! JR
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Post by ucwt on Jul 9, 2016 18:04:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome.
will do, whenever I start swapping parts.
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