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Post by oldchopperguy on Feb 29, 2016 22:18:00 GMT -5
Yelloscoot,
NOW you're "gittin' 'er done"!
Looks like the capacitors did the trick! You will love the better lights... I do love the looks of the under-frame LED "glow" light strips, but better check about their legality. If memory serves me, at least a while back, they were not legal in Texas (even though they are commonly used). You don't want to give the boyz with badges any reason to stop you just for sport. How they LOVE giving ANY biker a bad-hair day...
I've been checking out possible mounting solutions for my auxiliary LED driving lights. They're going to have to be mounted to PLASTIC... No steel handy at all. So they will have to have BIG braces behind the plastic to spread the weight out, preventing cracking of the plastic. With big enough "fender-washers" you can mount most anything to plastic... LOL!
Man, am I lovin' this WEATHER! Got out and voted and ran all sorts of unnecessary errands just to justify some riding!
Enjoy your newly-tweaked Yin Yang!
And, RIDE SAFE!
Leo
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Post by rockynv on Mar 1, 2016 1:22:46 GMT -5
Yep when building power supplies for our Heath Kits in our youth my brother and I had access to an Oscilloscope which helped us see visually the impact the right capacitor had in smoothing things out. A lot of sharp tall waves resulted in flickering lights/video and warbly audio.
Glow lights are only lawful as parking lights in many areas now so one does need to be careful.
On the Malossi stuff die hard Aprilia modifiers are finding that stock variators with Dr Pulley Sliders in the stock wieghts give the best bang for the buck and easily last twice as long as the rollers plus the stock Piaggio variator lasts longer than the Malossi too. They are using the Malossi spings in the stock clutches too with great results. The gotcha with the higher speed engagement of the Malossi clutch many times is greatly reduced belt life and greater wear on the clutch shaft bearings inside the final drive gear box due to the harder hit when it engages especially if you set the springs too hard.
The old adage usually holds true that when you make a candle burn hotter and more brightly it burns out more quickly so sometimes a bit of moderation is in order to get that balance of performance and reliability.
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2016 6:29:28 GMT -5
yelloscoot rock73 The larger tire sizes are 140/60/13 rear and 120/70/13 front. I do not like the wider tire on the front that's why I use the 12/70/13 on the front, it has the same OD as the 140/60/13 but narrower and with the larger tires one gains about 3mph back in speedometer accuracy. I HAVE NOT tried this with the vertical engine just the horizontal Linhai. JR
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Post by rockynv on Mar 1, 2016 13:18:19 GMT -5
When you go too wide in the front cornering can become a bear and can get really squirelly.
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Post by rock73 on Mar 1, 2016 16:53:17 GMT -5
Very good advice JR, me neither like too much the 130 in front, 140/60/13 back sounds good to me  , in my new shoes for this bike I'll try that 120/140, JR How many PSI do you use in each tire ? I use that bike every day with my Wife, commute home / work / home, and weekends go to beach  . Bye |
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2016 20:41:00 GMT -5
rock73 I like to run about 31psi in my tires for a softer ride. JR
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Post by rock73 on Mar 1, 2016 20:44:07 GMT -5
Yep when building power supplies for our Heath Kits in our youth my brother and I had access to an Oscilloscope which helped us see visually the impact the right capacitor had in smoothing things out. A lot of sharp tall waves resulted in flickering lights/video and warbly audio. Glow lights are only lawful as parking lights in many areas now so one does need to be careful. On the Malossi stuff die hard Aprilia modifiers are finding that stock variators with Dr Pulley Sliders in the stock wieghts give the best bang for the buck and easily last twice as long as the rollers plus the stock Piaggio variator lasts longer than the Malossi too. They are using the Malossi spings in the stock clutches too with great results. The gotcha with the higher speed engagement of the Malossi clutch many times is greatly reduced belt life and greater wear on the clutch shaft bearings inside the final drive gear box due to the harder hit when it engages especially if you set the springs too hard. The old adage usually holds true that when you make a candle burn hotter and more brightly it burns out more quickly so sometimes a bit of moderation is in order to get that balance of performance and reliability. Malossi is very good Italian brand, even better to replacing spare parts in Chinese Scooters, the CVT in this bikes really sucks, commonly this are made from Molten Zinc ( Calamine ), by example mine clutch broke bad at 7700 KM, given that I decided to upgrade my CVT completely to Malossi , this parts are made from Polished Steel , and what a difference  , not more Bike Shuddering at low speed and much better and lineal acceleration when I need it  . I'm highly recommend to people with Chinese Scooter upgrade to Malossi or Polini transmission parts , and not is too expensive, dr.Pulley with original variation is also good one, but is matter of tastes and budgets. |
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Post by rock73 on Mar 1, 2016 20:56:21 GMT -5
yelloscoot Please could you show some pictures in Opt7 Lighting in nigth ? I'm Curious , I would like to install Kensum HID kit 55W H1, I install this brand in my Car ( Ford Fusion ) and this are spectacular bright Thank you.
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 1, 2016 22:08:33 GMT -5
oldchopperguy Yes Leo, they did. Rode to work this morning and it was actually enjoyable to see the road without any issues. You're probably correct about the light strips and I don't care to meet any of our Good Guys in Blue. I never had a problem riding Yellow with the yellow LEDs running, but then again, I didn't use them very often for that reason. I would like some driving lights and have two different locations to mount, both of which, are in the wheel well. I don't know if that's a good idea or not. I'd like to find some similar to the pair you have. JR I saw the Avon kit with those sizes. Now my hindsight is 20/20.  I could sure use that extra 3mph of accuracy. I really need to get a good check with the phone GPS and see what I'm reeeaalllly doing. I know my highest indicated speed of  wasn't even close.  rock73 Sure, I'll try to find a good stretch of road with several signs. Hopefully I can get some descent shots. I saw you picked up a Givi. Which model number did you find to fit? rockynv I have never had a chance to work with an Oscilloscope. I've seen them all my life, but, have no clue how to use one. May just have to get one and figure it out. Back in my younger years, the best thing we had to work with, was the TI555 Timer. Now they have all kinds of cool stuff to tinker with (Arduino and others). Thanks Ya'll Loren
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Post by rockynv on Mar 2, 2016 2:24:22 GMT -5
I know Malossi along with Polini and while nice we do blow them up on the Italian bikes opting to go back to stock many times.
For Chinese bikes the Hoka kit is nice enough without breaking the bank. I went with the Hoka variator, Gates Aramid belt and just the better Parts for Scooters replacement clutch on my Lance Vintage and it was just fine. I did have to replace the final drive bearings on the clutch shaft first as they had been over stressed by performance mods done by the previous owner.
The person who bought my Lance 5 years ago has only had to replace belts and rollers since he bought it. Maybe I should have kept it.
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 2, 2016 21:39:09 GMT -5
yelloscoot Please could you show some pictures in Opt7 Lighting in nigth ? I'm Curious , I would like to install Kensum HID kit 55W H1, I install this brand in my Car ( Ford Fusion ) and this are spectacular bright Thank you. Okay, may not be the best pics, but,... Each LO/HI pair is taken just seconds apart. I was trying to hurry to keep cars from coming up from behind while I was stopped.     They really make a big difference over the yellowish factory bulbs. The Opt7's are 30w each bulb and I was a bit concerned about that, when buying them, for charging reasons. But, that has proved to be a non-issue, since JR recommended reworking all my connectors with solder.
 
Even when Yen is parked there is the reflection of the LED casing in the reflector... oldchopperguy I'm sure you will find a way to mount the driving lights even with only the plastics to work with. With your experience I know you have to have come across much more difficult situations to deal with.  Thank Ya'll  Loren |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 2, 2016 22:18:28 GMT -5
Yelloscoot,
Oh, YYEEESSSSS! Those LED's are SWEET! I can tell by your pix that they are LIGHT-YEARS ahead of the factory incandescent bulbs! Now I'm REALLY anxious to get the LED driving lights on mine. NO MORE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD UNPAINTED CURBS ATTACKING ME!
If you want to add small, powerful driving lights like mine, there ARE some similar available again on eBay. They appear to be very similar, but housed in some VERY trick-looking aircraft-style aluminum housings. I got mine out yesterday to assess the mounting possibilities. I had forgotten just how small and lightweight they were... No more than small LED flashlights. Weight won't be a problem even mounted to plastic. I just have to "engineer" a way to make them adjustable... THAT is a must. I want to see the road, but not blind the guys coming toward me.
I'll see if I can find pix of the lights I described and post them here.
Have another bone for a LOT of hard work! And RIDE SAFE!
Leo
UPDATE: I just checked eBay and found a number of promising lights similar to mine. I tried to put pix in, but my picture account is having trouble with my IP and won't accept pix... Cheesh!
If you'll check eBay searching for "LED driving lights motorcycle" there are a LOT of new offerings that weren't there a week ago. Plenty of small, lightweight ones similar to mine, and not too expensive (many around $30 a pair with free shipping). Many also use genuine CREE LED's too. |
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Post by rockynv on Mar 3, 2016 1:02:00 GMT -5
How much heat do the LED's put out compared to the regular halogens? After two years the moderately brighter Osram's I went with while they did not fog the lenses on the lamp housings did damage the mirroring above the bulbs. It will cost about $170.38 plus shipping to replace the headlamp assembly unless I can find a way to repair the damaged mirroring.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 3, 2016 17:42:12 GMT -5
How much heat do the LED's put out compared to the regular halogens? After two years the moderately brighter Osram's I went with while they did not fog the lenses on the lamp housings did damage the mirroring above the bulbs. It will cost about $170.38 plus shipping to replace the headlamp assembly unless I can find a way to repair the damaged mirroring.
Rockynv,
I've never used LED's inside regular factory headlight reflectors, so I can't really say. They definitely get HOT... But probably no more than halogen. Any "upgrade" to headlights over factory do risk heat-damage to plastic reflectors.
That's one reason I'm going with external auxiliary lights in conjunction with the factory headlight. The "add-ons" are out "in the wind" and are inside finned-aluminum heat-sink bezels.
We'll all want to see how Yelloscoot's work out! They certainly ARE bright!
Anyone else with experience with these lights, please chime in!
Leo
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 3, 2016 18:01:27 GMT -5
Yelloscoot,
I got my pix hosting back working again, so here are a couple of LED lights similar to mine that might interest you...
There are several similar to these, at around $30 a pair, often with free shipping. Most use genuine CREE LED's and the equivalent wattage advertised varies from like 30 to 150... In actuality, I'd say mine (probably same LED's) show about an honest 75 watts of real, useable light each. They supposedly draw 20 watts. The factory wires are VERY thin (about 20 gauge) and don't even get warm... But the lights do!
I think ALL these type of lights throw a spot (pencil) beam. Very narrow and if mounted a tad low, and aimed a tad more "up" than the headlight, will light the lane they're aimed in like daylight! You just need to keep them low enough to not blind drivers.
These have "projector" lenses, mine have flat-glass, but the beams in the pix look the same to me.
The little inset picture at the bottom right is accurate as to how they look, and how much light they give.
I am going to attempt to mount mine so I can perfectly adjust the beam while sitting on the scooter, and use an auxiliary switch for them. No sense in running that wattage in daytime.
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