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Post by rock73 on Mar 3, 2016 20:28:00 GMT -5
Awesom Job yelloscoot  indeed worth that upgrade, but the case is the OP7 Leds are a little pricey for me, I think that 35w H1 HID Xenon op7 could made me happy too  , given that mi bike come with projectors.. |
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 3, 2016 21:43:17 GMT -5
Yelloscoot,
I got my pix hosting back working again, so here are a couple of LED lights similar to mine that might interest you...
There are several similar to these, at around $30 a pair, often with free shipping. Most use genuine CREE LED's and the equivalent wattage advertised varies from like 30 to 150... In actuality, I'd say mine (probably same LED's) show about an honest 75 watts of real, useable light each. They supposedly draw 20 watts. The factory wires are VERY thin (about 20 gauge) and don't even get warm... But the lights do!
I think ALL these type of lights throw a spot (pencil) beam. Very narrow and if mounted a tad low, and aimed a tad more "up" than the headlight, will light the lane they're aimed in like daylight! You just need to keep them low enough to not blind drivers.
These have "projector" lenses, mine have flat-glass, but the beams in the pix look the same to me.
The little inset picture at the bottom right is accurate as to how they look, and how much light they give.
I am going to attempt to mount mine so I can perfectly adjust the beam while sitting on the scooter, and use an auxiliary switch for them. No sense in running that wattage in daytime.
Hope these may help you out,
Leo Thanks Leo. I got to looking earlier today and added these to my Ebay Collection for YinYang. The top/left also comes in silver and the top/right also comes in white. I think the white would look good inside the black wheel well. I've left a question to one of the sellers, but I think, they both run at 30w/pair. The prices are right, just wish they were Made In America.    These are the mounting spots I have available to work with. One with bolts and the other only the plastic. I'm just not sure if these locations would be considered legal in Texas.  The laws are written so you need a law degree to understand all the wording.  You are right about having them run through an auxiliary switch, or maybe, tie them into the high-beam with a relay. My ride to work in the mornings is only about fifteen minutes and really don't use the highs very often even then. So charging shouldn't be an issue for Yin. ( thanks JR) Live Long and RIDE, Loren |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 3, 2016 22:01:43 GMT -5
Yelloscoot, Looks like a good choice! The white, black or silver would all look good in there. These lights are not heavy, so mounting to plastic should be easy with a big washer or plate on the inside. As for legal positioning, it's anybody's guess. The front turn-signals on Minnie Mouse are way to low to be "legal"... LOL! But I've never been stopped for them. Yin Yang has the perfect mounting setup as you are using! Very good placement. Minnie is not so well set up... Mine are going to have to be "out in the wind"... LOL! I believe any of these are at least 30 watts EACH in actual illumination, but don't draw nearly that much juice. They are SMALL, but they are MIGHTY! Do keep in mind that they probably need to be hooked up either to DC current, or use a flux capacitor or bridge rectifier like your new headlight... Harley Davidson now offers their "Day Maker" LED headlight. Good name! These do light up your world... Ride safe (safer, well-lit!) Leo |
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 3, 2016 22:01:44 GMT -5
Awesom Job yelloscoot indeed worth that upgrade, but the case is the OP7 Leds are a little pricey for me, I think that 35w H1 HID Xenon op7 could made me happy too , given that mi bike come with projectors.. Thanks rock73 . Yes, the LEDs are a bit pricey. I have HIDs on Yellow (one of my other bikes), and really like them. I don't remember the brand, but I know, they're not the Opt7 line. They've been on for almost three years and still working fine. Back then I think they were running about $70 for the kit, so, the prices seem to have come down with the newer LEDs hitting the market.  Just let them know if you are running AC or DC. This quote is part of my correspondence with Opt7. They have been very helpful and I would recommend them for any lighting needs. Loren |
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 4, 2016 21:04:24 GMT -5
How much heat do the LED's put out compared to the regular halogens? After two years the moderately brighter Osram's I went with while they did not fog the lenses on the lamp housings did damage the mirroring above the bulbs. It will cost about $170.38 plus shipping to replace the headlamp assembly unless I can find a way to repair the damaged mirroring. had a chance to chime in before me yesterday, but, I haven't forgotten. I've been considering your query today though and thought I like to know myself.  Simply put, I don't want the same expense, to replace anything. So I found this on a quick search: Comparing Halogen, HID, and LED Headlights. A little more looking and this one also includes LASER Headlights: Battle of the Headlights: Halogen vs. Xenon vs. LED vs. Laser vs. Conversion Kits. I hope this gives some insight. Loren |
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 4, 2016 21:38:37 GMT -5
I've been working on a couple miscellaneous things just to try something different. First is the brake fluid covers. Just by taking some fingernail polish, which I have for small touch-ups, filled in the lettering and wiped away excess with polish remover. Looks like I still need to add another coat.    The other is a set of gauge covers. I've notice that the tip of the tach needle has begun to fade a little since the sun hits it at work. So to keep the fading at bay as long as possible, I used some craft foam from Hobby Lobby and covered that with some gray marine vinyl left over from Yellows seat restoration three years ago. They fit snug and just pull out and fit in the pocket of my riding jacket.
Red is the worst and the first to fade fast, so, this should help while it's in the sun for hours at a time. Remember picking up the news paper from outside when it's been sitting there all day...the reds are all faded out. My yellow bike, Yellow, has the same problem. The gauge panel is now silver and white. I took pics if anyone wants a short tutorial. Loren |
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 4, 2016 22:27:00 GMT -5
Yelloscoot, Looks like a good choice! The white, black or silver would all look good in there. These lights are not heavy, so mounting to plastic should be easy with a big washer or plate on the inside. As for legal positioning, it's anybody's guess. The front turn-signals on Minnie Mouse are way to low to be "legal"... LOL! But I've never been stopped for them. Yin Yang has the perfect mounting setup as you are using! Very good placement. Minnie is not so well set up... Mine are going to have to be "out in the wind"... LOL! I believe any of these are at least 30 watts EACH in actual illumination, but don't draw nearly that much juice. They are SMALL, but they are MIGHTY! Do keep in mind that they probably need to be hooked up either to DC current, or use a flux capacitor or bridge rectifier like your new headlight... Harley Davidson now offers their "Day Maker" LED headlight. Good name! These do light up your world... Ride safe (safer, well-lit!) Leo Thanks Leo. I went with the top/right ones in white. They should be here by next weekend. I'll figure how to wire them up, but yes, definitely going to the battery through a relay for power. So far I haven't had any problems with any of the mods that Yellow has. I've found as long as you're not out acting a fool on the road, the police, really don't pay much attention to scooters. At least not here in the Dallas area. Now that it's warming up, I hope, you'll have a chance to get your driving lights "out in the wind". Wow, you aren't kidding about the Harley "Daymaker":  That is one SERIOUS headlight,  and, $o i$ the price. LOL Minnie would really be able to see where she's going, and be seen doing it, with a pair of those on her nose.  Wishing you brighter and safer nights soon, Leo. Loren |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 4, 2016 23:34:03 GMT -5
Yelloscoot,
I like the white lettering on the master-cylinders. I've been doing that on guns to dress them up. It's a great "old-school" technique!
Cool idea with the gauge-covers. Yes, RED is the fastest-fading color for sure. Even high-end new cars in candy-apple red turn pink on the hood, trunk and roof in short order! It sucks, but that's the way it is... LOL! I still prefer analog-gauges with needles to most of my digital ones... even if they fade. (But I DO like my digital speedo: easy for old eyes to read!).
I'm not sure old Minnie Mouse has enough juice to power a pair of those Hog Day-Maker lights! Harley's use big old CAR batteries!
I've snuck the Mouse out nearly every day to run errands (necessary or not...) just to enjoy the weather! Aside from the light upgrades, If possible, I do want to try heavier Dr. Pulley sliders. I've heard great things about them, and I know my old original rollers must be way past their prime... Good excuse anyway! A few more mph top end, and 70 mph cruise at a tad lower rpm would make the old 250 just about "perfect" for this old geezer.
Spring is almost here, so it's time to think about getting in the saddle... (on the SCOOTER that is...). Or whatever. This afternoon, I took a quick romp down 121 after filling the top-box with groceries just to brush up on my freeway skills. It takes a few miles to get back used to semi Diesels wheels and lug-nuts and roaring engines a foot from you at 70 mph after a winter mostly driving the cage... (Little wheels, don't fail me now!)... LOLOLOL!
Ride safe,
Leo
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 4, 2016 23:41:28 GMT -5
Rock73,
Welcome to the site! Have a bone!
I think you will be happy with your headlight upgrade!
I don't know how the riding, traffic and road-conditions in Venezuela are, but enjoy your ride! Please share with us things about your country. We would all like to see pictures!
Ride safe!
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Post by rock73 on Mar 5, 2016 0:23:08 GMT -5
Rock73,
Welcome to the site! Have a bone!
I think you will be happy with your headlight upgrade!
I don't know how the riding, traffic and road-conditions in Venezuela are, but enjoy your ride! Please share with us things about your country. We would all like to see pictures!
Ride safe!
Leo in Texas, USA Thank you oldchopperguy Sure I'll Post some pictures from Venezuela and the Huge traffic of bikes in Caracas , its a Beautiful Country  and we have the more cheaper gasoline in the world, by example 91 oct is 0.16 USD per liter and 95oct is about 0.8 cents usd per Liter. Well yelloscoot has been doing a great job with Jin Yang, uhmm my wife named my bike as " La orejona " something like The Big Ears jejeje.. |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 5, 2016 17:19:44 GMT -5
Rock73,
We all will enjoy seeing pictures of your beautiful country! And, most of us name our rides... I call mine "Minnie Mouse" because her pointed nose and big folding mirrors (like mouse ears) make her look like a mouse... or a rat... No, I like "mouse"... LOL!
Ride safe!
Leo in Texas
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 5, 2016 20:47:05 GMT -5
OK boyz & gurlz...
I finally got inspired enough to pull the plastics off Minnie Mouse today, and see just HOW I might mount and hook up my own LED lights... And guess what?
The plastics come off AS EASY as the shop-manual says!!! I couldn't believe it! 
Just SIX self-tapping screws EASILY accessible from the area above your feet. Took only 20 minutes! Now, there ARE a number of little tabs and slots I was able to "unloose" without breaking them... I can't guaranty the thing will go back together as easy...
Dang! These things surely look BIGGER in the house, than on the tarmac!
Good news all over the place... Plenty of steel to mount stuff to, and the plastics are stout enough to mount most anything within reason, with fender-washers behind. And it was amazingly CLEAN inside with little dirt and road "schmootz" for 8 years of riding!
And... Good access to everything behind that rat-nose, and heavy-duty wiring, automotive-grade plugs, connectors, etc. and all tight and secure with no old-age crumbling and cracking! Bend 'em, pull 'em and plug and unplug 'em with full confidence, just like working on the trusty family car! What a pleasant DIFFERENCE from my old 150...
For all you (3 or 4, maybe?) Grandvista riders, I FINALLY found the elusive HEADLIGHT ADJUSTMENT! Unlike the Grand Dink manual shows, it's NOT accessible through the hole in the nose where it should be... There are two large Phillips screws barely visible in my picture that turn a gaggle of gears on the back of the headlight can. You must pull the little UPPER strip of nose-plastic to get to them.
So Minnie will have to sit dormant for a while as I devise a way to mount the lights, and of course, my infamous illuminated swan... over a pound of 1950's-tacky cast zinc, chrome and orange light-up wing-things.
I'll take some pix when I figure how to mount the lights... I'll likely hook them up directly to the battery, although the wiring looks to be OK to tap into the factory headlight with a switch added. I am a tad uneasy switching 40 more watts of light onto the factory low-beam wiring (even though the LED's use VERY light wiring of approx. 20 gauge).
And yeah, the missus DID let me know in no uncertain terms that Minnie's nose will NOT remain on a chair in the living room past Sunday... LOL! EWWW! If MAMA ain't happy, NOBODY including the cats will be happy...
Ride safe!
Leo (lovin' the way these Taiwan scoots are put together) in Texas |
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 5, 2016 22:44:49 GMT -5
Leo, it's good to see that you've found the time and motivation to give Minnie some TLC. I just can't understand why the Missus doesn't want a mouse in the house. Hmmm, women...go figure. I'm digging around in a nose myself this weekend. It started with a trying to locate a rattle behind the dash and leading to PDI'ing the connectors with solder. oldchopperguy Yee Haw and lucky you. Next time, I'm buying Taiwanese.  The Chinese must really love using screws. Just to get the front nose off of YinYang includes: 14 to remove the floor covers 2 behind the floor covers 8 holding the nose and dash together 2 holding the nose to lower side panels 6 holding down the windshield 4 holding down the gauge cover 2 holding the nose to the frame 6 inside the wheel well 2 holding the access panel on the front. And finally, 2 nuts holding the nose to the frame For a Grand Total of 46 screws and 2 nuts. 
So, while I'm in there, I'm soldering connectors, mounting a 4-bay fuse holder and Bosch Volt Meter, and running power for the upcoming LED spots. oldchopperguy That's good to know. I know you were concerned about how they were going to mount up. Sometimes I'll just wander the isles at the hardware store and just scan the shelves. I usually come up with a couple ideas that way. Great to know that Minnie keeps the "Schmootz" out of her "Schnoz". It's always nicer to pick around in a clean environment than a "Buggered up" one.  You will need some serious hardware to keep that Swan from flying South. And yes, please do, send pics our way. Gotta keep Ma happy, or take the risk of some couch time, next to Minnie's nose on the chair.  Good night everyone. Loren |
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Post by rock73 on Mar 5, 2016 23:53:21 GMT -5
yelloscoot A question about your new tires, you have some idea of how weighed your rubbers and if the store where you bought em shipping you a box ? It is to know how much it would cost me the delivery if I buy my new tires in the U.S.A. for that then an agent in Florida can placement by sea to Venezuela. Currently is difficult to find new tires 13" for " La Orejona " in caracas. for some constrains that we have right now for our government..  .......no comments about it. I'm thinking to get the advice from JR , 120/70 in front and 140/60 rear, just scare me a little if they real fit my bike, Right now is 130/60-13 both tires, and the rear Kenda 761, is truly wear, in fact by the moment I had to rotate the kendas while I find new tires for her....Kenda is really UGLY, just last about 5000Miles ..... Thank you!
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Post by yelloscoot on Mar 6, 2016 7:05:17 GMT -5
yelloscoot A question about your new tires, you have some idea of how weighed your rubbers and if the store where you bought em shipping you a box ? It is to know how much it would cost me the delivery if I buy my new tires in the U.S.A. for that then an agent in Florida can placement by sea to Venezuela. Chaparral shipped them by UPS, just as shown, weighing in at about 16 lbs./7.25 Kg. These are both 130/60-R13. Next time, hopefully after 5K miles, I'll try out the 120/140 combination.  These have a max. psi of 40. When the Honda dealer install them they were set at 36/38 psi, and, that gave a pretty rough ride. I soon bumped them down to 29/32 and that really smoothed out the ride. I'm quite happy with the performance and will buy the Avons again. Hope this helps. Loren |
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