Need advice or-- Road Rage 2.0......  By  horace (Read 1,775 times)

horace,SylvreKat,ricardoguitars,rockynv,spandi,oldchopperguy,bandito2,geh3333

BTW have any of you noticed that the OP (LUKE) that posted this thread hasn't responded at all since starting it? It's a trademark he has had for a long time.

You see Leo I don't agree one bit with anyone getting jumped on even for flipping someone off in some cases but I have known a few where people have done this in front of children, ladies and sometimes even people who have done no wrong just because some people think they can push you around or they don't have any morals also.

But here's what I'm having trouble with and it's by Luke's own story. He says the SUV was going the wrong way down a one way in a lot, if this is meant to be a parking lot I know this can happen, it's happened to me when I wasn't paying attention, or was confused about where I was at. Now let's also remember Luke said "no big deal" so by his own words to me it means that the SUV wasn't going to hurt anyone by going the wrong way and if it wasn't a big deal then why didn't he just ignore it? Luke didn't mention that the SUV was possibly going to run over him by going the wrong way, again he said "no big deal"

Now it's been assumed just because this guy reacted in a violent way because he was told to F off that he was doing this on purpose, again I can assume anything I want to but I'm damn sure by Luke's words he wasn't doing it on purpose if "it wasn't a big deal" Doing something dangerous as mentioned here doesn't add up if it was "no big deal"? How many times has a person went to Wal Mart where they have these huge parking lots with arrows pointing different directions to show which way to go to properly park in the spaces allotted in the direction of how the traffic travels? I've been to Wal mart and it was a slow day with very few people parked and drove across the whole parking lot say on one end away from people not following the arrows myself, yes call me lazy cause I took the shortest route in a nearly empty parking lot. Was this the case here? Again "it was no big deal" I can assume other things about the SUV driver just as easy as anyone here can say he did it on purpose, my assumptions are me only guessing what was going on with the SUV driver and I'm damn sure I can't read his mind.

Luke didn't report that the guy was hauling butt, swirving, raising cane, didn't even say the guy could have ran over him as was mentioned could have happened, nothing else but that he was going the wrong way? Now here's another saying we all know well, "TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT" SUV driver was going the wrong way and Luke honked at him and then flipped him off, = two wrongs and = Luke getting a black eye and beat up. Would one try to assume that if Luke had ignored the SUV driver he would still have gotten beaten up? = rattlesnake that you leave alone.

For me if someone comes along and honks at me and even flips me off cause I'm driving the wrong way in a Wal mart parking lot the worst I'm going to do is flip them back off = both of us acting stupid.

Again it was mentioned that the SUV driver started all of this, I say the SUV driver was in the wrong by going the wrong way and didn't start the chain reaction of the events that followed, the finger that told him to get F'd started that action and the results weren't how the flipping off party thought they would be? I'm also betting in the future that someone won't be quite as quick to pull the trigger on the flipping finger?

JR

Here'a another rage story.

The street I usually take to our house, the folks in the apartments park at the side. Now, there's plenty of room despite this, it being an extra-wide street. Except when the semi-cab is parked there, and the oncoming car doesn't move away from the center.

I had started passing the cab when a car came around the curve. I did hesitate but there should've been time to clear the cab, plus my car's nose was already at the cab's back wheels. Except guy was obviously speeding, plus never moved from crowding the center. His side mirror hit mine. I stopped, looked back and he hadn't stopped 'til he got to the intersection. I pulled forward to clear that area then got out. Guy was still at the intersection behind two other cars. I could see his side mirror hanging. I checked mine and luckily with it being a folding mirror all that happened was it got knocked in. Went right back into place when I pulled.

Guy finally backed up to park across from me. Got out and I said "Looks like your car got the brunt of things." He started yelling at me that it's all my fault I was on his side of the street. I said I wasn't, that yes I was at the center but still on my side. He kept yelling at me and waving his arms. Said we needed to exchange insurance info. And it was all my fault I hit him. I pointed out there was nowhere I could've gone with a semi-cab next to me and he could've (should've) moved over. He kept yelling at me all my fault. I said we need to call the cops since it's an accident. His yelling changed to no we don't, just give me your insurance info. No longer exchange but just me give mine to him. Plus he kept waving his arms and coming at me.

I got my phone and called 911. Guy continued towards me yelling and waving. I put my car between us and told him I'd called the cops, and told the operator to have the cops hurry as I was at this point feeling VERY threatened. He told me get in the car and lock it and stay in 'til the cops came. Guy continued yelling, came to the passenger side where I was sitting, went and looked at my windshield (for the VIN? don't really know why), yelled more, gestured more, then got in his car and fled. Which I reported to the operator, including his tag number as he drove away, including which way he turned.

Cops came and took all the info. And didn't cite me for anything. And assured me guy couldn't find my personal info (like my address) from either the VIN or the tag. And said if they caught him he'd be cited for fleeing the scene. And figured he had way more than just a broken side mirror going on, like revoked DL or no insurance. Or worse.

So JR, there are indeed folks who explode with small provocation. A raised finger. A refused box. A his-fault broken mirror. And we should continue to report these folks as appropriate--to the boss, to the cops. 'Cause I truly believe that rage just continues to escalate, and some event down the line it'll explode to deadly levels.

>'Kat

I also did say what I would have done and the point of all of this is "no finger no violence" . I know a lot of people right or wrong that will not let being flipped off go easily and apparently the guy in the SUV was one of them? We also need to remember that by the story Luke gave he flipped off someone he didn't even know apparently and then he learned the hard way he should have minded his own business.

I was flipped off one time at a gas pump at Wal Mart. The station was very busy, every single pump was occupied and I pulled up behind a young lady to wait my turn, wasn't in any hurry and when the young lady got finished she got into her car and got her cell phone out and started a conversation and didn't even start her car to move all the time knowing I was waiting my turn. My wife and grandchildren were also in the car. She looked up in the mirror and saw me raise my hands in a gesture of "hey lady why don't you move"? Didn't flip her off but for sure I thought the arrogance of not moving was rude and not polite. She proceeded to raise her hand and flip me off in front of my wife and grandchildren.

Not knowing at the time the tenant at the station was bagging trash and saw the whole thing and he went to her window because she was still sitting there and motioned for her to roll her window down and asked her if she had filled her car and was done pumping gas, in the mean time I got out of my car after instructing my wife to write her license down and call 911. She proceeded to let the tenant know that she was making a very important call and was trying to move while all the time she hadn't even started her car and basically telling him she would move when she felt like it.

I told the tenant that we had called the police and then she went ballistic and wanted to know why, about that time the patrol car rolled up and my answer to her was that " she could explain it to the officer after I explained to him my side of the story" What we didn't notice was she had expired tags that the officer would find and didn't even have a driver's license and add that to the obscene gesture she paid dearly for acting stupid with that finger.

All in all I say I handled it very well and everything worked out for the best for me but if the person had been a male that done that to me acting the same way I feel like my first course of action would have been to ask the guy in the car what his problem was with the finger, I don't take being told to get F'd lightly "if" I've done nothing wrong. Had I been this guy in the SUV going the wrong way and someone flipped me off I would have figured that I earned it and would have just went on my way and like I said what this guy did after the encounter was lawfully wrong and I would have no problem seeing them prosecuted at all because they deserve it.

Kat things are not the same as they were years ago 30 years ago or even when we were kids first learning to drive Road Rage was unheard of but so was people walking into a school shooting them for no reason too. In today's society there are enough nut cases to get Road Rage started without hardly any reason and in this case the old middle finger ignited the fire and it wasn't necessary at all. I've always known some things that are understood from a male perspective,

Don't spit on someone
Don't call my mother ugly names
Don't try to harm my family
Don't flip someone off if you can't handle what it may stir up.

I pointed out what I would have done and that's mind my own business "if it wasn't no big deal" I'm betting Luke is wishing the same.

JR

Police salaries come out of our taxes, they are there to serve and protect, why not put our tax money to work as it is intended?

Oh the heck with it.

I'm ready. I keep my sharpened lightning rod in the map pocket, just in case. 'Kats have claws you know

>'Kat