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Post by madcervantes on Mar 31, 2013 16:04:17 GMT -5
Hey guys, so I was having trouble with my throttle, turned out to be a rusty spring, a day of use, and now she's down again.
Basically, I went to kickstart her, and with barely a push the kickstart lever went limp. It just sits there in it's socket, uselessly hanging. It can spin 360 degrees, no resistance etc. Just a swiveling rod.
I think what happened is that the kickstart spring snapped. That's my guess. Fixing that I hear is pretty intense though.
It also won't start on the electric starter, but I think that's just the battery being low, though I did get it charged a couple of weeks ago. I'm going to hook it up to a car battery and see if that can get it started. (not with the engine running of course)
I guess something is wrong with my charge circuit, if it isn't holding any charge. ugh.
Thanks guys for the help!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 16:52:57 GMT -5
If you can give us a little more info, we might be able to help you out. What kind of scooter do you have? What engine are you talking about? ...and some pics might help, too.
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Post by alleyoop on Mar 31, 2013 17:41:55 GMT -5
If the Kickstarter handle is the only thing that is rotateing on the shaft it depends on how it goes on there. Some have a bolt to tighten it onto the shaft some have a hole and a pin to hold it onto the shaft. Also the shaft usually has splines so the kickhandle grabs the shaft good. If the shaft rotates all the way around then it is in pretty bad shape inside.
The small batteries on the scoots are not the best and will loose a lot of their charge over a couple of weeks if not charged up. If you have a charger put it Trickle charge for at least 6 hours to bring it up and hope it holds a charge and your charging system on the scoot is working. If working it should charge the battery up as you are riding, short trips and shutting off and restarting will not charge the battery. You need to ride it for around 20 minutes or so at a good clip.
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Post by played1 on Mar 31, 2013 18:44:16 GMT -5
Take off the primary cover and look. It's a simple system. You will be able to tell real fast. 1 washer, 2 bushings, 1 assembly, and a spring. That's it. 1 of those things has crapped out on you.
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Post by madcervantes on Apr 1, 2013 0:28:05 GMT -5
If you can give us a little more info, we might be able to help you out. What kind of scooter do you have? What engine are you talking about? ...and some pics might help, too. Sorry. 50cc offbrand Chinese. Sort of like a Tao Tao. Called a Silver Bashan but it's hard to find anything about that online. I'll get some pics up tomorrow. If the Kickstarter handle is the only thing that is rotateing on the shaft it depends on how it goes on there. Some have a bolt to tighten it onto the shaft some have a hole and a pin to hold it onto the shaft. Also the shaft usually has splines so the kickhandle grabs the shaft good. If the shaft rotates all the way around then it is in pretty bad shape inside. The small batteries on the scoots are not the best and will loose a lot of their charge over a couple of weeks if not charged up. If you have a charger put it Trickle charge for at least 6 hours to bring it up and hope it holds a charge and your charging system on the scoot is working. If working it should charge the battery up as you are riding, short trips and shutting off and restarting will not charge the battery. You need to ride it for around 20 minutes or so at a good clip. Alleyoop It's not just the handle, which is tightly fastened to the axle. Instead, the axle and handle just rotate freely without any resistance. I figure the problem is inside, and as you say that seems to be a pretty big problem. Take off the primary cover and look. It's a simple system. You will be able to tell real fast. 1 washer, 2 bushings, 1 assembly, and a spring. That's it. 1 of those things has crapped out on you. Yeah, I had heard that if you do that though, the spring will pop out and it's super hard to get it back in place though, right? Thank you everyone for the help. |
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Post by madcervantes on Apr 2, 2013 10:33:42 GMT -5
Sorry guys, still no pictures, my camera phone is broken and I need to borrow a real camera from a friend.
But I do have an update on the battery. I went to go get it tested. Without load, it was rated as being fine, but very very low wattage. When load was applied, it tanked to the "BAD" section of the meter.
I bought some booster cables, and hooked it up to a car battery (the car wasn't on, don't worry). I then turned the key and started up the engine. The moped started up, though it was kind of making a weird clunking noise. Then I removed the cables, and gave it a couple of seconds. A couple of seconds passed and then it shut down again.
I hooked the cables back up, and tried to start it again but it won't. It doesn't just make the sort of hiss wheeze of the low battery. It sounds like it's fixing to turn over but doesn't. Kind of like, if it were a rollercoaster, it gets all the way up the hill, but right before it takes the plunge down the first hill, it sputters out. A couple of more attempts at starting it, and it's back to the electric wheeze.
I'm thinking this is a problem with the battery still maybe, though it also could be something else that went wrong. If something is broken in the kickstarter, and loose, maybe it's rolling around and jamming something up, though I don't know enough about kickstarter to diagnose that via sound only.
I'll try and get some pics up soon. Thank you guys!
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Post by chihuahuas on Apr 2, 2013 11:11:49 GMT -5
If you don't oil /grease these kickstarters they break. and fast. If you don't glue/weld lever on they come loose. and fast.  |
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Post by madcervantes on Apr 3, 2013 12:22:11 GMT -5
Got a new battery. Here's an update.
A Note on the kickstarter: I removed the kickstart leaver because it was getting in the way, and because repairing it, from everything I can see on the videos online, requires a good deal more skill and time than I have right now. I'm moving across the country in a month, so it's not worth spending a lot time trying to fix this thing when I'm just going to get rid of it in a few weeks. I'm focusing on fixing the electric starter.
A note on the Electric Starter: Got a new battery, the old one was dead. When I tried charging the old one, the starter turned over and started up briefly before chugging out and was coming up bad on a battery meter.
With the new battery, it sounds like at least one problem (the battery) has been fixed but still will not turn over. It's making a weird whirrwhirrwhirr sound.
I've included a video here to help explain stuff:
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
