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Post by lain on Jul 12, 2015 7:21:51 GMT -5
I just setup 4 led light strips on my friends scoot. He wanted them hooked up so whenever he brakes the extra led light strips turn on as well, and only when the brake is being pulled. I tied the 4 light strips together and wired them to the positive wire for the brake (green and yellow) and the ground (green) wires.
Now whenever the scooter is running and he pulls the brake the alarm goes off and cuts the engine off. It does not happen when the engine is off, only when the engine is running. I only touched the brake light wire to hookup the lights. nothing else was touched. This did not happen before we put the lights on. They are simple led strip lights with the adhesive on the backside that sticks to the body.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Post by ghcoe on Jul 12, 2015 9:04:33 GMT -5
Sounds like the light are pulling too much power form the system. Maybe a faulty strip or just a touch system. I would disconnect the light and see if the problem still exists. If the problem goes away I would check the light and make sure they are working properly. I would use a relay instead of splicing directly to the brake system with the lights.
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Post by lain on Jul 12, 2015 9:18:43 GMT -5
Sounds like the light are pulling too much power form the system. Maybe a faulty strip or just a touch system. I would disconnect the light and see if the problem still exists. If the problem goes away I would check the light and make sure they are working properly. I would use a relay instead of splicing directly to the brake system with the lights. The weird thing is I have the same alarm on my scooter, and 10 LED strips and no problems. I have 2 long strips hooked up to my brake wires, a strip hooked up additionally to each blinker in the back, and 6 hooked up to a switch that is hooked up to the ignition switch. His strips are 1/3 the size my strips are. Gonna check to see if the problem goes away when disconnecting the lights. If the problem goes away is there any easy way without a relay to hook them up? They seem to work fine it's just the alarm goes off whenever he uses the brakes when the engine is on now.
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Post by ghcoe on Jul 12, 2015 9:30:17 GMT -5
I would suspect that the LEDs are drawing more power than what yours are or there is a problem with one or more that is making them draw more power than usual. Sure sounds like a voltage overload to me. I am not familiar with the alarm, but it sounds like it is sensing a high voltage spike and is shutting down the scooter to protect the electrical system. Not all LEDs are the same. Some do require more voltage to operate, even though the strips are smaller the LEDs could be larger.
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Post by JoeyBee on Jul 12, 2015 9:49:22 GMT -5
I agree with everyone else. Sounds like the lights are drawing too much power. Something went sideways during this project.
If it was me I would uninstall the lights and start back from the beginning. Use a multimeter and test the battery at idle and when the rear brake light is on for voltage and how many amps are being drawn. Now you would have a baseline. After that test the wires to ensure you are hooking up the correct wires. No voltage should be present when the brake light is not on. Then install one strip at a time and test for voltage and amps being drawn. As you install each one the amount of amps used should increase.
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Post by lain on Jul 12, 2015 13:14:40 GMT -5
Found out it was completely unrelated to the lights like I originally thought. Rider error.... He had the automatic lock on...
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Post by cyborg on Jul 12, 2015 13:21:24 GMT -5
Ouch
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Post by JoeyBee on Jul 12, 2015 17:48:43 GMT -5
It's good to hear you got it worked out.
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