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Post by dac55 on Feb 24, 2015 21:43:06 GMT -5
Im new scooter's electrical systems. However, i am experienced with electrical systems in general and how to install them safely (fuses, relays, wire-size, etc). I plan to wire up a cigarette plug-in so i can plugin devices such as GPS, cell phone charger, only low amp drawing devices. So my question is, does anybody know how many amps or wattage draw the stator can support before you start frying stator or voltage regulator?
Thanks in advance for the info
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Post by rcq92130 on Feb 24, 2015 22:11:27 GMT -5
Dunno, but I have the following w/o a problem:
electric fuel pump
TWO radios (that run simultaneously - one for rear speakers 7 one for front)
Tach
Halogen headlight (65/55 watts)
flasher with LED driving light
flasher with high power tail light bulb
auxilliary tail light
electric air horns
The only thing that draws charging amps down is the headlight, which i only use at night. Other than that - no problem at all.
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 24, 2015 22:24:55 GMT -5
Depends on the scooter. There are 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, and 18 pole stators, each with a different output. Keep in mind, the output varies based on engine speed. Your best bet if you want to use several electrical accessories is to upgrade your stator, and get a maintenance type charger that you can plug into that cigarette lighter plug when you get home, this will keep your battery topped even if your stator can't handle the load.
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Post by dac55 on Feb 24, 2015 22:25:24 GMT -5
Wow ok sounds great since i will draw prolly less then what your radio does. Thanks for the input!
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Post by dac55 on Feb 24, 2015 22:27:57 GMT -5
Ok mine is 2012 taotao 50cc. can i find out which stator it has by a serial number or model number without having to remove the cover and see how many poles it has?
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Post by rcq92130 on Feb 24, 2015 22:38:14 GMT -5
Sorry - should have said: my little scooter is a 150cc, stock stator and R/R. When running above 2K rpm the voltage is at 14v, so the output of the stator is keeping up. Only time the voltage drops down (meaning a net negative drain) is when I have the high wattage headlight bulb blaring.
but i don't know if there is a less manly stator in 50cc bikes. Maybe JerryS knows .........
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Post by rcq92130 on Feb 24, 2015 22:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by dac55 on Feb 24, 2015 23:16:16 GMT -5
Ok cool deal. Awesome radio btw, just might have to get one as well. At a 15w draw and 30w max, cant go wrong there!
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Post by rcq92130 on Feb 25, 2015 1:02:22 GMT -5
I SERIOUSLY doubt their claims and believe the current the thing draws is far less (but have not tested to be sure). With both radios running the voltmeter remains pegged at 14v (with all the other stuff running also).
Don't get me wrong - puts out plenty of sound; obnoxious as heck to those around me. But (I think) it's because the little speakers are efficient, not because the little thing is putting out a ton of power.
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 25, 2015 1:39:02 GMT -5
Which model do you have? A 50cc Tao Tao could have either a 6-pole or an 8-pole stator. It not only depends upon model, but also on what specifications the dealer ordered. Many of the more common Chinese scooters come in various configurations, and they aren't always reflected in the model number, but it's a good place to start if you don't want to pull the flywheel to check.
You may be able to use a bent piece of hard wire to feel around behind it to count the number of coils.
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Post by dac55 on Feb 25, 2015 14:43:00 GMT -5
Would the VIN number tell which kind? its the 2012 model that has "Duster" decals on the bottom
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 25, 2015 16:28:26 GMT -5
Unfortunately no. I would first call the dealer and ask them.
To answer your first post more directly, you are not going to fry your stator or R/R with extra current draw, you do have the danger of draining your battery. That is why I recommended the maintenance charger to keep it topped off when you get home. Some people even install second batteries in the case of large stereo amps.
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Post by dac55 on Feb 25, 2015 16:40:14 GMT -5
I was planning on replacing my mini battery with a lawn mower size battery. like 175-200amp. Also plan to swap most of my bulbs (headlight, tailight, dashlight) with LED replacements, to help wattage draw.
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 26, 2015 0:21:36 GMT -5
Sounds good, with a maintenance charger, you'll be good to go no matter what.
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 26, 2015 14:08:54 GMT -5
I once hooked up a small 100watt amp that ran two 4 inch speakers . I had it hooked up so I could run an mp3 player through the amp , but my engine was too loud and I could not hear the music that good " especially with my helmet on " , so I disconnected everything.
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