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Post by ricardoguitars on Jan 27, 2015 21:18:12 GMT -5
I keep hitting the asphalt with the center stand on one side and the CVT cover on the other side when doing sharp turns, I wish this scoot was a bit taller  |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 27, 2015 21:45:44 GMT -5
Whew, no "chicken-strips" on your tires I'll bet... LOL!
Your experience is pretty normal. These scooters are general-purpose "transportation" to get around town. Designers pay little attention to attacking high-speed curves with a vengeance. Some riders remove the center-stand, some try taller tires, but you may find you need to go with a more sport-bike style small, or medium-sized motorcycle for your riding style.
Some Italian scooters seem to be designed with hard riding in mind, especially the tall-wheel models. My Kymco 250 is much, MUCH better than my old Xingyue 150 was, and can be leaned over much further. However, other Grandvista riders also complain that they STILL don't have enough "lean" factor.
With your present scoot, about all I can think of is to remove the center-stand (keep it handy for working on the scoot) Try a taller rear tire if it will fit, and keep the tires inflated to the maximum recommended pressure. One other thing that may help a LOT would be to remove the CVT belt cover. THAT might give you quite a bit of extra clearance.
Wish I could be of more help, but you MAY need to move to a motorcycle...
Sincerely,
Leo in Texas
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 27, 2015 22:23:44 GMT -5
No chicken strips brother...lol
Be careful,,cause if you go down too far,,your tire will get light from the stand or CVT hitting the ground and you will wash out....you can modify the stand some by cutting off the little foot peg on the left side used for pushing it down with your foot.
Of coarse you will need somebody to help you put it up on the center stand after that mod..but atleast you will still have the stand.
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Post by rdhood on Jan 28, 2015 10:55:50 GMT -5
Ditto, OP. Me too. I am too used to leaning steep on a bicycle. Do that on the scoot... scraaaaape. I am learning to stay more verticle and still do tight turns and avoid the center stand scrape.
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Post by ricardoguitars on Jan 28, 2015 14:24:56 GMT -5
I got the habit of leaning too much from riding bicycles, a motorcycle would be nice without having to shift gears, I like to shift gears on a car, but not on a motorcycle.
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 28, 2015 14:54:58 GMT -5
you can still make sharp turns without scrapping as long as you have enough real estate,,the less pavement you have the lower you are going to lean,,I like to use up both lanes when cornering really fast,,for a right hand corner you go in hard on your side then come out of the corner in the other lane,,but that isnt happening unless you are on a race track,,or very experienced with no cops around..lol
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Post by JR on Jan 28, 2015 21:31:21 GMT -5
You could check your clearances and put bigger tires on. I use a size bigger on my 250B and it does help with ground clearance.
JR
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 28, 2015 23:21:20 GMT -5
I guess I got my habit of not leaning too far from years of riding Harley baggers... Lean one of the old Hogs over very far and the floor-board "engages" the tarmac, often lifting BOTH tires off the ground. WHEEE!!! Can THAT get exciting as you slide sideways across several freeway lanes... ALMOST as exciting as when the tires hit the road again, tossing you toward the outside of your already scary slide... LOL!
Much like riding a drunk hippopotamus wearing roller-skates!
Do be careful... Lifting the tires off the road is NOT fun!
Leo in Texas
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Post by rockynv on Jan 29, 2015 1:22:06 GMT -5
Learn to shift in the seat to lean your body more and the bike less so you wont be going overboard with the bike. Even newbies on high clearance Sport Bikes have to learn Best Practice and shift on the seat to refrain from leaning their bikes too far.
On my Aprilia 250 I would be past the usable area of the tire if I took things off to make it lean any further. Right now its the belly pan that sounds a warning before hitting the muffler or center stand and you are already at the limit of the tires.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 29, 2015 2:06:32 GMT -5
I'm sure most forum members have seen this video, it shows just how dangerous it is to allow anything other than the wheels to touch the ground while in a turn, even your feet. Notice that he doesn't loose traction until the moment his foot touches the ground (about 36 second mark in the video), taking just enough weight off the wheel to make it loose traction.
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Post by scootdude on Jan 29, 2015 3:10:05 GMT -5
Take the center stand OFF! That is usually the offending piece. It is completely useless unless you want to work on your bike. In that case just put it back on. Only 2 bolts to deal with. Then you can take corners as hard as you want.
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Post by rockynv on Jan 29, 2015 4:57:56 GMT -5
While the temptation is to take the stand off it is best practice to see how close you are to the limits of the tires first as most will really need to learn correct cornering technique. Too many are ready to blame the bike as the problem when they wipe out when its in reality the nut holding onto the handlebars as the expression goes.
Most here are riding 52 mph scooters and not 200 mph sport bikes so there is no need to lean them like a race bike going into a turn at 150+ mph. On the street unless you are exceeding the speed limit to a large degree, you should not be anywhere close to hitting the stand if you are riding correctly.
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Post by ramblinman on Jan 29, 2015 5:51:37 GMT -5
Learn to shift in the seat to lean your body more and the bike less... you beat me to it. i've scraped the road with my center stand a few times but never the cvt cover. shifting your body will let you take those sharp turns without sparking the pavement. |
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 29, 2015 8:52:02 GMT -5
I just noticed this time--that guy on the video is lucky he hit the post of the guard rail. Looks like a good drop on the other side of it.
Me, I'm proud of my chicken strips! But then, with the city-driving I do, I can't imagine how anyone can corner fast/hard enough to scrape anything that isn't unusually low. Not unless they're going too fast. I'm sure highway twistees are a different story though.
Btb jersey, be VERY VERY aware and careful if you continue to corner using the oncoming lane. I did that all the time on one specific corner in high school. Ended up with the car in the ditch when I cornered and there was an oncoming car that had been exactly in the one spot hidden from my view. Could've easily been a head-on instead. Taught me real quick that the little thrill of speed and breaking the law is NOT worth the very good probability of crashing or even dying.
>'Kat
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Post by ricardoguitars on Jan 29, 2015 9:53:03 GMT -5
I have to take the highway on my commute, I used to live 15 minutes from work on a nice and quite road when I got the scoot, no need to speed, but in December I moved 45 minutes from work with a highway in between, that's why I have been pushing my poor scooty faster; it might be a good idea to get a motorcycle after all  |
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