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Post by ksaun123 on Jan 12, 2015 23:57:11 GMT -5
About 32vac comes out the red/black wire from the 2 pin of the cdi when i crank. I need a new stator
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Post by lain on Jan 13, 2015 0:23:10 GMT -5
that's actually a good amount of power. Did it start and work well after connecting the wire from the cdi to the blk/red wire on the stator?
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Post by ksaun123 on Jan 13, 2015 12:21:24 GMT -5
No it had no spark when I tried that... It still gives a faint spark when I hook up the blue cdi though.
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Post by ksaun123 on Jan 13, 2015 12:44:13 GMT -5
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Post by lain on Jan 13, 2015 15:20:09 GMT -5
Your stator is fine. You confirmed it was fine when you made all those readings of the ends of the wires of the stator earlier. I have no idea why your mind is still stuck on the stator.
The black CDI might be trash because it was hooked up to the solenoid and prolly fried. If it sparks with the blue CDI then there may be another problem which isn't too much of a surprise. Have you tried switching out the coil or spark plugs yet?
Also, you said the battery had not been charging, well if you haven't charged it and have been using it over and over testing things then your battery may be too low to give a good enough spark. Even on a good scoot that has no problems if you runt he battery too low it won't work for you.
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 13, 2015 15:27:22 GMT -5
Do a simple test on the stator..400-600 ohms between the two wires on a DVM and its good..
Does the headlight come on with key or when motor is running?
Sorry I didn't have time to breeze the whole thread..
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 13, 2015 15:41:12 GMT -5
If the stator is only putting out 35vac when revved, it's not enough, at idle that's fine. They should put out around twice that much when revved, 15-30 is good for idle.
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Post by lain on Jan 13, 2015 16:00:51 GMT -5
If the stator is only putting out 35vac when revved, it's not enough, at idle that's fine. They should put out around twice that much when revved, 15-30 is good for idle. To what I understand his stator was outputting over 30 when cranking without the engine running, it does not seem he is able to get the engine to run right now. That should be more than enough to get the scoot started am I right? |
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Post by ksaun123 on Jan 13, 2015 16:17:44 GMT -5
Brand new orange coil, Good NGK spark plug. Sparks fine with stock cdi installed.
I have a battery charger that I hook up to the battery that's hooked up to the scoot.
I will do the test when I go back out.
The headlights suppose to come on with motor running (doesn't come on, new rectifier...), but I have 2 smaller lights in front that come on with key.
Havnt tried revving it to check the red/black cdi wire. (it was checked when cranking)
The engine does start, but the question was if it was a ac scoot or not and what kind of cdi it had on...
plus headlight issues and bogging issues...
Finally got a digital caliper... It was the piston that was too small, not the cylinder... Wasted $45
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Post by lain on Jan 13, 2015 16:32:23 GMT -5
Brand new orange coil, Good NGK spark plug. Sparks fine with stock cdi installed. I have a battery charger that I hook up to the battery that's hooked up to the scoot. I will do the test when I go back out. The headlights suppose to come on with motor running (doesn't come on, new rectifier...), but I have 2 smaller lights in front that come on with key. Havnt tried revving it to check the red/black cdi wire. (it was checked when cranking) The engine does start, but the question was if it was a ac scoot or not and what kind of cdi it had on... plus headlight issues and bogging issues... Finally got a digital caliper... It was the piston that was too small, not the cylinder... Wasted $45 Sorry man I seem to have misunderstood the problem. I had thought it had progressed to becoming another problem as well. Smaller lights come on with the key on, but how about if you try the passing light button to see if the headlight itself works with the button? Have you checked the wire on the stator that powers the lights? Do signals work when the scoot is running? |
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Post by ksaun123 on Jan 13, 2015 16:55:42 GMT -5
All 4 signals work fine with and without it running. I have a separate high beam and low beam light. when I hit the hb switch. I see where the bulb get hot/orange, but no light. The orange from the bulb gets brighter only at high rpm's. Same with low beam.
I replaced the 4-pin rectifier and grounded it, still same problem.
I have a video of it if you are interested...
Thinking about getting smaller main jet, a 115, and a bigger pilot jet, 38, because it can't start without starting fluid. Then the bogging issues. (adjusted the carb pin(no luck), messed with a/f mixture screw, throttle cable, and put on stock air filter, still no luck)
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Post by lain on Jan 13, 2015 17:30:23 GMT -5
All 4 signals work fine with and without it running. I have a separate high beam and low beam light. when I hit the hb switch. I see where the bulb get hot/orange, but no light. The orange from the bulb gets brighter only at high rpm's. Same with low beam. I replaced the 4-pin rectifier and grounded it, still same problem. I have a video of it if you are interested... Thinking about getting smaller main jet, a 115, and a bigger pilot jet, 38, because it can't start without starting fluid. Then the bogging issues. (adjusted the carb pin(no luck), messed with a/f mixture screw, throttle cable, and put on stock air filter, still no luck) Is the bulb itself getting orange, or does it look like it is coming from something else? I have a tiny service bulb near my main bulb that illuminates the area around the bulb even when the main bulb is burned out. Have you already tried replacing the bulbs just in case? Have you checked the wiring and the bulb harness itself? If the pin on the end of the harness that touches the bottom of the bulb is even a tiny bit off it may not light up, I've had this problem before, I just pushed it in and re-installed the bulb. It's easy enough to check and just push them in to see if it was a possible problem. Even if you push them in a little too far when you push the bulb in the bulb will push them into place. Is the ground wire on the bulb connected to a good ground? Is everything making good contact? You said the signals work, what about the horn? If everything works I would try a new bulb, try with a replacement of the same as stock before trying any other type of bulbs. |
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 13, 2015 18:02:26 GMT -5
Check the headlight switch as well. Mine is touchy, I can actually fiddle with it to turn off my headlights, or have low or high beam only, just by pressing it right. Could be the contacts are messed up on the switch itself.
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Post by ksaun123 on Jan 13, 2015 18:11:55 GMT -5
I replaced all the bulbs and hooked the assembly straight to a battery from the harness, they worked fine. Done this several times, didn't blow the bulbs either. The horn works. The only things that don't work are both the high and low beam lights and the speedometer. Gas guage and battery gauge work fine. Need to check for a proper ground. The whole front are held together with zip ties, so I'm going to have to cut them off to mess with the lights Don't want to do in the cold... It was the bulb itself that got orange... Really just trying to make the scoot stable enough to be reliable. Didn't get a chance to go out today... I wish it was spring already.  |
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Post by ksaun123 on Jan 13, 2015 18:14:49 GMT -5
Don't know about it being the switches. When I hit high beam, on start, I can see the light turn a dull orange.
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