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Post by luminescence11 on Dec 5, 2014 12:57:54 GMT -5
Hey all, new to this forum. Have had my Taotao atm50 scooter for a little over 6 months, and have enjoyed it to get me all over. Moved to Maryland from Wisconsin in August, and haven't had a problem until today. Started heading out to grab a bite to eat today, and the scooter ran fine all the way to the sub shop. Afterwards, as I was leaving, I noticed it started okay, but had no power when I would throttle it. Sounded like it was spitting and sputtering, and did this the whole way home. Couldn't crack more than 10 mph unless I was coasting downhill. Even died a couple of times on the way home, and would start harder and harder each time I tried.
Just cracked 3400 miles, which puts me due for another oil change today. Not sure what caused the scooter to throw a fit, as it was fine when I started out. Could it be the temperature? Only about 40 degrees here today. Or is it something else like fuel ratio, spark plug, etc. Only upgrade I've done on the bike was a performance CDI swap when I bought it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Post by toddmaples on Dec 5, 2014 13:12:30 GMT -5
May be a dirty carb or bad gas. Clean the carb the best you can as its a sealed carb from factory and try some known good petrol.
Check air filter for cleanliness and make sure your intake manifold isnt cracked. Check all vacuum lines also.
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Post by pepboyjoe on Dec 5, 2014 13:48:39 GMT -5
It could be a lot of things making the misfire you need to have compression air and fuel and spark so the bike can run, bad gas and clogged fuel filter or carb makes you have little or no fuel, clogged air filter no air bad ignition coil makes the bike do exactly what you described, If I had to I woul bet on the coil reace the coil and see what happens I have seen all of the above before but your problem I had it twice wih my taotao
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Post by luminescence11 on Dec 5, 2014 16:01:34 GMT -5
So after messing with it for the last couple of hours, I noticed the exhaust is kicking out some white smoke. Look at the carb, but it seemed pretty clean to me. Any idea what might be causing the smoke? Bad gas?
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Post by JerryScript on Dec 6, 2014 0:08:19 GMT -5
Truly white smoke is normally caused by water or antifreeze leaking into the cylinder. You don't have either on your ATM50. White-blue smoke (what I think you may be seeing) is usually an indicator of oil burning, which would most often mean bad rings. Check your compression. If you don't have a compression gauge, pull the spark plug, place your finger over the hole tightly, then hit the starter. It should blow your finger off the hole. If it doesn't blow it off strongly, either go to a garage and have them use a compression gauge to confirm, or go ahead and tear down to the jug and check the rings.
If you only see white-ish smoke during and right after startup, it could be condensation in the muffler. If the smoke continues after warm-up, check as indicated above.
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Post by scootdoggydog on Dec 6, 2014 1:23:30 GMT -5
when you notice your scooter start to sputter look at the rpm gauge if it drops really fast its probably spark or something electrical also it would be a good idea to check the valve gaps
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Post by geh3333 on Dec 6, 2014 2:21:19 GMT -5
when you notice your scooter start to sputter look at the rpm gauge if it drops really fast its probably spark or something electrical also it would be a good idea to check the valve gaps Good advice , if the scoot isn't sparking constantly it will obviously sputter and run like , also the scoot may smoke due to the fuel not burning properly as it enters the chamber .
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Post by lain on Dec 16, 2014 13:23:09 GMT -5
Does it backfire on deceleration? Have you tuned the carb at all? How much oil is your engine consuming? White or what looks like white smoke, accompanied by a smell of burning is usually oil burning. You may have one or a mix of a few problems causing this.
I would check the gas lines, and gas pump. Disconnect the gas line from the carb and vacuum hose from the intake manifold that connects to the gas tank, drain the gas that is inside the gas line into a cup or something, it shouldn't be much, if it does not stop draining you have a bad petcock, if it stops it should be fine. Suck on the vacuum line that leads to the gas tank gently to provide a vacuum and make sure some gas is coming out of the gas line (make sure to drain into something, and NO SMOKING while doing this!). If no gas comes out when providing suction to the pump that controls the gas then inspect the vacuum hose, if that is okay then replace the pump.
If everything is okay, you have successfully ruled out any problems with gas up to the carb, next is to inspect the carb, check it for dirt, any cracks in the air filter or connections may let sand or dirt in, it only takes one tiny grain of sand to clog your gas jets inside the carb. Once you have cleaned the carb, prime it with some fuel by providing suction to the fuel pump while the gas line is connected to the carb, then reattach the vacuum line to the intake manifold.
Still no good? Move on to electrical components, replace each part one by one, like test the spark plug by putting in a different plug, then put the one you already had back in if the new one has the same results, and then do the same for each other components, cdi, ignition coil, etc. I choose to pull and plug new parts/old parts because even with a multimeter electrical issues can check out alright until you are on the road and unable to stand next to it with a multimeter. Check to make sure all wires are still connected, after a while riding in rain or snow will rot the wires where they connect to the terminals on harnesses, I have chose to wire everything directly without harnesses so there are no exposed connection points. If you have rotted connections, cut then, get new terminal ends or try to gently pull the old ones apart with a knife and pliers, brush it off with a wire brush and reattach the new clean cut wire to the terminal.
Still no good? Disassemble your engine and take a look at the bore and the piston, look for scratches or noticeable wear, take a look at the rings around the piston, are they broken or bent or maybe just not on the piston all the way? Do the gaps look very big or very small?
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Post by JerryScript on Dec 16, 2014 18:22:42 GMT -5
Since it happened suddenly, I would first check the spark plug boot. A failing boot will do exactly what you experienced.
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