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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 2:33:51 GMT -5
Hey gang, If you've been considering an 11-pole upgrade kit for your scooter, now's the time to do it! BuggyDepot is running a Christmas sale until Dec 15th and has the stage 2, 11-pole stator/magneto with the matching flywheel and full wave rectifier/regulator. In addition, this kit includes the heavy duty adapter harness, this is a $35.00 value in itself. This is it folks, the real deal and complete kit. This complete Kit is normally $125.00, on Sale for $89.00. Now in addition, members get 2.5% off ($86.78) (membership is free) and new members get an extra $5.00 off. Brings it down to $81.78. Here's a a direct link - BuggyDepot Stage 2 11-pole upgrade kit
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Post by rcq92130 on Dec 1, 2014 5:13:46 GMT -5
Why? What's the advantage?
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 1, 2014 7:38:32 GMT -5
Is it ac or dc stator ? What ever happened to my answer here Nycscooterparts.com is running 20% off everything , but shipping . If you like our Facebook page and contact us via Facebook get an extra 5% off your orders . The sale will continue till 12/20/14 Just in time to have the products delivered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! John
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 14:33:43 GMT -5
Is it ac or dc stator ? What ever happened to my answer here It is setup for scooter with AC CDI and is truly plug'n play for scooters of this variety. It even has the feed for the enricher. Some of these scooters, even though the lights are 12VDC, the lights themselves don't care if it's AC or DC and in order to gain a little extra power, the lights get AC power. Now I'll try to explain this without being rude.... Stators produce AC, that AC is converted to DC by the R/R... Here's where it gets tricky.. Some scoot manufacturers take power from the AC for lights, some use DC for the lights... Now, depending upon the amount of power the stator produces and how the R/R is configured, if you use a system that's configured for DC and put it on an AC CDI/lights/choke scoot, you'll tax the out of your R/R and likely burn it up. and vice'versa...In short, you have X amount of available power of coming from the AC of the stator, and Y amount coming from the DC side... Over tax either, and you'll burn up said component.In the case of this particular stator is doesn't matter ONLY because it has enough power for most scooter applications running from the AC or DC power output of this setup....
--------------------------------- When Bashan chimed in, he seemed rather confrontational and I'm not on here to argue with anyone. He seems like a pretty a cool guy and rather than get in a pissing match, I thought I would "just let it ride"...
But the reason I didn't post this link in that thread was specifically to avoid affronting anyone who was offering a similar product. BTW, BuggyDepot offers the adapter cables free with purchase, do you?
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 14:40:15 GMT -5
Why? What's the advantage? None if your not having any charging issues and/or do not need any extra power. According to info I found on Ali-baba, this kit produces 121 watts. One of my scooters has a very crappy charging system but the manufacturer thought it would be a good idea to put dual 25/watt lights on this scooter. I managed to get my charging system working converting a 5 pin regulator and I'm at a strong 13.5+ Volts... Hook up my lights and I drop into the low 12v range. For the record, you get no performance gains other than more electrical power.
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Post by rcq92130 on Dec 1, 2014 15:13:40 GMT -5
Ah ha! Got it. Had a similar problem when i removed the absurd little 35W Chinese bulb in the single headlight of my scooter and put in a 60/55W H4 bult. The stator couldn't keep up and voltage dropped into the 12v range (had to slap on a charger once ever week or 2) Solved the problem easily. Inside the headlight reflector was a second hole for a tiny "blade connector" bulb that put out just enough light for the headlight to glow a bit ... kind of the Chinese version of a Halo ring. Removed that bulb, drilled the hole a little bigger and put in one of these 68-LED bulbs: www.ebay.com/itm/261508976451?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT(cost a whopping $6 including shipping) and added a rocker switch to turn the H4 low beam on or off (it's normally always on). The LED bulb - always on - uses almost no juice and gives a very nice headlight beam ..... about what the crappy 35W Chinese bulb put out. So I use that during the day for a "headlight" and at night use the H4 bulb --- since most riding is during the day this means there isn't ever a drop in voltage below 13.5 or 14. Simple & cheap!
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 1, 2014 15:31:07 GMT -5
Is it ac or dc stator ? What ever happened to my answer here It is setup for scooter with AC CDI and is truly plug'n play for scooters of this variety. It even has the feed for the enricher. Some of these scooters, even though the lights are 12VDC, the lights themselves don't care if it's AC or DC and in order to gain a little extra power, the lights get AC power. Now I'll try to explain this without being rude.... Stators produce AC, that AC is converted to DC by the R/R... Here's where it gets tricky.. Some scoot manufacturers take power from the AC for lights, some use DC for the lights... Now, depending upon the amount of power the stator produces and how the R/R is configured, if you use a system that's configured for DC and put it on an AC CDI/lights/choke scoot, you'll tax the out of your R/R and likely burn it up. and vice'versa...In short, you have X amount of available power of coming from the AC of the stator, and Y amount coming from the DC side... Over tax either, and you'll burn up said component.In the case of this particular stator is doesn't matter ONLY because it has enough power for most scooter applications running from the AC or DC power output of this setup....
--------------------------------- When Bashan chimed in, he seemed rather confrontational and I'm not on here to argue with anyone. He seems like a pretty a cool guy and rather than get in a pissing match, I thought I would "just let it ride"...
But the reason I didn't post this link in that thread was specifically to avoid affronting anyone who was offering a similar product. BTW, BuggyDepot offers the adapter cables free with purchase, do you?
NO and for good reason too . So you got this whole thing together already ? John
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 17:38:36 GMT -5
It is setup for scooter with AC CDI and is truly plug'n play for scooters of this variety. It even has the feed for the enricher. Some of these scooters, even though the lights are 12VDC, the lights themselves don't care if it's AC or DC and in order to gain a little extra power, the lights get AC power. Now I'll try to explain this without being rude.... Stators produce AC, that AC is converted to DC by the R/R... Here's where it gets tricky.. Some scoot manufacturers take power from the AC for lights, some use DC for the lights... Now, depending upon the amount of power the stator produces and how the R/R is configured, if you use a system that's configured for DC and put it on an AC CDI/lights/choke scoot, you'll tax the out of your R/R and likely burn it up. and vice'versa...In short, you have X amount of available power of coming from the AC of the stator, and Y amount coming from the DC side... Over tax either, and you'll burn up said component.In the case of this particular stator is doesn't matter ONLY because it has enough power for most scooter applications running from the AC or DC power output of this setup....
--------------------------------- When Bashan chimed in, he seemed rather confrontational and I'm not on here to argue with anyone. He seems like a pretty a cool guy and rather than get in a pissing match, I thought I would "just let it ride"...
But the reason I didn't post this link in that thread was specifically to avoid affronting anyone who was offering a similar product. BTW, BuggyDepot offers the adapter cables free with purchase, do you?
NO and for good reason too . So you got this whole thing together already ? John No, I just ordered it last night.... I was looking at .00 shipped with the harness or $125.00 (plus S&H) from you... Had I known you were going to be running your sale (which comes to right about $ .00 as well) I probably would've ordered from you based on the recommendations of these scooter boards about you as an honest seller.. Actually, I think I may have purchased from you before on ebay... Do you recall selling a few lots of scooter parts in a combo package to ronsauctionstuff? Over half the order was NCY stuff. BTW, what's your good reason why you don't carry the harness? I have been tinkering with getting this charging system working using various R/R's I had purchased (maybe from you) and one I got from PFS..... I made a video:
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 1, 2014 18:51:21 GMT -5
DM the names don't ring a bell . so what are you doing selling all those parts or is that the collection of parts you have acquired in an effort to solve this problem ? Scooter harnesses in general don't line up too well , there are so many variations of the scooters there is no set standards .
John
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 19:24:07 GMT -5
DM the names don't ring a bell . so what are you doing selling all those parts or is that the collection of parts you have acquired in an effort to solve this problem ?Scooter harnesses in general don't line up too well , there are so many variations of the scooters there is no set standards .
John The collection of parts is a long term strategy to do youtube videos defining "Chinese Scooter" parts. Specifically related to the GY6.In addition, some trade/swap meets, etc etc... I search ebay for bulk lots and I'm starting to get an inventory that rivals a scooter store....In addition, I'm going to attempt to completely strip and rebuild a few GY6's and do some stroker and boring kits....That's something I may buy from ya in the future is the boring tool, as long as it's the latest edition and decent price.... This particular scooter issue recently cropped up and has nothing to do with my parts collection. --------------------- Yep, there are a bunch of harnesses and it seems no two are the same.... I may have to run a couple of wires, but the important thing is all the plugs. On this particular scoot, the plugs mate up.
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 1, 2014 20:01:19 GMT -5
you can always buy plugs and make your own crimp connections .
John
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Post by geh3333 on Dec 2, 2014 4:38:39 GMT -5
Just recently someone asked if they the 11 poles come in AC or DC . I answered something to the effect of " from what I know most if not all are DC " . I've heard of many switching to an 11 pole stator and not being able to get it to work properly " even after trying different RR's" . I heard the 11 pole stators where ment to be used with DC powered lights. And I have also heard that the scoots harness also played a role in wether it would work or not . i do want to apologize for the answer I gave , when I said the stator was DC I should have said from what know they are used on scoots with DC headlights. All i know who use an 11 pole had to switch to Dc lights to avoid any electrical issues.
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Post by rcq92130 on Dec 2, 2014 19:26:17 GMT -5
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 2, 2014 22:55:12 GMT -5
I thought i'd do a search to see if I could find a cheap matching regulator/rectifier.... $15.00 ShippedNow, it's from China which means it will take a minute to arrive, but the other one is from Puerto Rico so that might take a minute too... But, the two would only be $48.00 to the door! Granted, you wouldn't be getting the adapter harness, but if you're doing this on the lowest budget possible, you could just splice and dice your own wires on the cheap..... Most people have extra wire laying around or can get it free somewhere... If not, Maybe $5.00 in wire if you do not care about color coding.... Anyhow, great find!
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Post by rcq92130 on Dec 3, 2014 0:13:41 GMT -5
I have bought a number of things from this "GY6 Racing" guy in Puerto Rico -- including my 60mm BBK --- and everything has always arrived (in San Diego - across the country) in 2 days.
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