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Post by ricardoguitars on Nov 1, 2014 10:25:59 GMT -5
I'll have to do a long trip soon (around 200km), I was thinking on going on my air cooled Chinese 125cc GY6; is it possible or just a big NO? If possible, what should I take into consideration? What worries me the most is engine overheating, since the scooter is air cooled  |
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 1, 2014 12:19:12 GMT -5
I have a 150cc and wouldn't hesitate for a second to take my scooter on a 200km trip.
As far as what you should have with you, I'll suggest the following:
#1 - A Cell phone. (This is a must as payphone are almost non-existent)
2, A tire plug kit and a way to inflate the tire (I keep fix a flat with me to inflate the tire)
3 An extra spark plug
4 Screw Drivers, small metric wrench set and Alan wrenches
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Post by ricardoguitars on Nov 1, 2014 17:13:09 GMT -5
I have a 150cc and wouldn't hesitate for a second to take my scooter on a 200km trip. As far as what you should have with you, I'll suggest the following: #1 - A Cell phone. (This is a must as payphone are almost non-existent) 2, A tire plug kit and a way to inflate the tire (I keep fix a flat with me to inflate the tire) 3 An extra spark plug 4 Screw Drivers, small metric wrench set and Alan wrenches I always carry my tools with me, I was thinking of attaching a spare tire somewhere, I can live without a glove box, that looks like the best place to put it on. |
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Post by shalomdawg on Nov 1, 2014 23:45:22 GMT -5
howdy and best wishes on the trip. i wouldn't hesitate to go but hopefully you can use roads where full throttle times can be few and far between. if you have the patch kit, is a spare necessary?
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by spandi on Nov 2, 2014 0:02:28 GMT -5
Are we talking 200k (roughly 125 miles) one way or round trip? In addition to all the good advice, might I suggest going over the scoot to make sure everything is in tip-top shape, maybe a spare belt too? Happy Trails!  |
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Post by ricardoguitars on Nov 2, 2014 0:43:30 GMT -5
Are we talking 200k (roughly 125 miles) one way or round trip? In addition to all the good advice, might I suggest going over the scoot to make sure everything is in tip-top shape, maybe a spare belt too? Happy Trails! 200 round trip, I will get the spare belt |
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Post by earlwb on Nov 2, 2014 10:06:42 GMT -5
It should not pose a problem. Flat repair is a good thing to have on hand. Also if you haven't done it, change out the all rubber extra flexible tire valves as the brass valve tips come out easily or the simply break off on you. The GY6 engine design is a decent design, but the CVT belt drive doesn't allow good airflow to help keep the drive belt from overheating. I would suggest a spare belt and a way to change it while out on the road. Removing the little foam air filter in the CVT drive is a good idea as it tends to clog up in a short time anyway. Small dust particles don't hurt anything. If your ride has the rubber intake manifold from the carb to the engine, it might be wise to have something for fixing or replacing it should it break on you. Some duct tape is handy too. As mentioned a cell phone is needed. Also if you know someone with a pickup truck or trailer, if may be wise to see if they are able to come help you should something happen along the way. Maybe not a breakdown but maybe a accident.
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Post by scooter on Nov 2, 2014 12:08:55 GMT -5
Also if you know someone with a pickup truck or trailer, if may be wise to see if they are able to come help you should something happen along the way. Maybe not a breakdown but maybe a accident. Insurance is good to have too. I am covered for everything but uninsured motorists and I get free towing if I break down, which I have used twice already, saving me 150 dollars in towing fees. I agree with you, Earlwb. My cvt drive gets really warm. I can't even touch the clutch or variator after a short drive. If I didn't drive in the rain, I'd chop holes and vents in my cover. I got some of that orange "Ride On" goo, to put in my tires, too. |
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Post by ccr on Nov 2, 2014 12:40:31 GMT -5
My cvt drive gets really warm. I can't even touch the clutch or variator after a short drive. If I didn't drive in the rain, I'd chop holes and vents in my cover. i also have this problem too. i think the best way to deal with it is to use a ram air intake of some kind into the transmission case. or you could change the final drive gearbox ratio to lower the transmission rpm. and get an oil cooler too. its harder to make a hot engine run colder than it is to make a cold engine run hotter, unless you live at the north pole, there is always a benefit from adding an oil cooler. |
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Post by JR on Nov 2, 2014 14:45:28 GMT -5
As long as he isn't trying to run it WOT all the way and takes even maybe an occasional pit stop break for soda or water it'll do fine. I've made 5 trips to Dallas and back on my water cooled 250B at 816 miles round trip. Made each trip in two days. I made 3 of these trips in July with temps on one over the 100F mark.
That's over 4k miles in 10 days total.
JR
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Post by ramblinman on Nov 2, 2014 15:20:33 GMT -5
I'll have to do a long trip soon (around 200km), I was thinking on going on my air cooled Chinese 125cc GY6; is it possible or just a big NO? If possible, what should I take into consideration? What worries me the most is engine overheating, since the scooter is air cooled i'm no expert and haven't read through the thread yet but i believe if your carb is properly jetted then you can ride it till your bum gets too sore. i've gone on 100km trips recently with no problems other than a sore bottom. |
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 2, 2014 17:39:52 GMT -5
A belt is something I forgot to add to my list and is an excellent suggestion! For those who have problems with the belt area getting hot, there is a good article on the cause and effect on scrappydogs website in the tech talk with mo area.... Here it is quoted: Belts breaking all the time! Here is a reverse MO! question answer. This time it was MO! calling out to all those scootdawgs out there who might know why so many belts are broken on certain scooters. This was a reply from someone who kept breaking belt after belt, and seemed to try everything, then after he changed the rear clutch/pulley assembly, he wrote back this reply below. It seems that the inner bearing would pit and run rough, causing excessive heat, and transfering heat to the belt through the rear sheaves of the pulley. Heat and rubber don't do well together for long!MO! It (rear clutch/pulley) was causing all the heat (a bad needle bearing in the clutch), and I have about 500 miles on my scooter since replacing the clutch with the one I purchased on your site, and it's running great, so you my want to advise people to pull the clutch as part of their normal maintenance routine (every 1,500 – 2,000 miles should suffice), and feel if the bearing has any rough spots in it; this can easily be done by inserting your index finger into the bearing and spinning the clutch on your finger, and if the bearing does not roll freely, or you can feel any rough spots in it, it’s probably getting close to time to change the bearing (if you can find one), or the clutch, because you can warn them if they don’t, they’ll probably be pushing their scooter home from wherever they are when the heat from the bad bearing, melts the belt. -helpful scootdawg no longer changing belts all the time! Source |
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Post by surfpick on Nov 2, 2014 18:08:35 GMT -5
A belt is something I forgot to add to my list and is an excellent suggestion! Some sailors like to immediately mount new spare parts & keep the old part as their spare. This way, you KNOW the spare will fit when you need it out in the middle of nowhere. |
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Post by katastroff on Nov 2, 2014 20:23:03 GMT -5
I did a 3 day 1000km road trip and a 500km 1 day trip this summer. Took tools with me, but never needed them.
I was riding on a 150cc all stock gy6 engine with the carb set up on the rich side. The engine drank tank after tank of fuel at WOT running, no heat issues, no rattle, no nothing. I did change the oil 1/2 way on the long trip. But then, i always dump the oil every 500km.
No matter what type of engine/scooter you got, going on long trips always involves a bit of preparation.
So get the proper "just in case" kit and just follow them handle bars wherever they take you.
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Post by ricardoguitars on Nov 3, 2014 10:34:16 GMT -5
A belt is something I forgot to add to my list and is an excellent suggestion! Some sailors like to immediately mount new spare parts & keep the old part as their spare. This way, you KNOW the spare will fit when you need it out in the middle of nowhere. This is a great idea  |
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