Seeking Manuals Wiring Diagrams and info about Stators. Rea  By  dmartin95 (Read 17,849 times)

I can answer a few of your questions. Most scooter electrical systems are a combination of AC and DC. Some of the lights are DC and come on with the key such as the tail light. Some are AC and come on when the stator starts spinning. These stators have the white wire that is dedicate to the charging circuit, and the yellow AC wire that is center tapped on the white wire. They also have a magneto coil that supplies AC to the AC CDI:

The white terminates in the R/R and does not split off. The Yellow splits and supplies AC current to many of the lights around the bike. But you may have a three phase DC system in which the stator has three yellows that run to the R/R. The DC output of the R/R supplies the entire bike and everything essentially runs off of the battery including the DC CDI:

John is 100% correct, a stator by definition only creates AC current. As the magnets approach the coils they push the electrons one way:

When the pass they create the opposite flow of electrons:

Together they give you the classic AC current waveform:

That is AC current plain and simple. If it was creating DC current it would be a generator and the mechanism of action there is completely different. If they said it was a DC stator that is wrong, there is no such thing. They may have meant that it was a three phase stator that converted all of it's AC energy to DC via the R/R and then everything including the CDI ran off of DC. A stator produces AC energy and scooters do not have generators. Rich

Aug 23, 2014 17:49:27 GMT -5 dmartin95 said:

Aug 23, 2014 7:15:53 GMT -5 tvnacman said:

keep in mind "stators" only generate ac voltage not dc !!!! What happens after the stator is determined by external components and or wiring configurations . 

Hi thanks for the responses.... I did not know that Stators only generate AC electricity.

I found some specs on the stator that is in the Bintelli Havoc:

Znen GY6 150cc Scooter 12-coil Stator DC Current (29mm center hole diameter, 42mm diagonal bolt hole spacing)

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However it does not list how many watts its capable of producing. Also, why does it say DC current if they only generate A/C? 

Does anyone know how many watts this 12 pole stator is rated for?

Reason it's listed as Dc is simple, so many people post things that are incorrect it's not funny. If that is the stator for the Bintelli then it is AC with 3 wires to the R/R and a single pulse coil wire along with a ground. Also people get the charging system mixed up with the ignition system (CDI) in this case along with your BMS you have a Dc type CDI because they feed from the battery.

No diagrams on the Havoc or any other Bintelli scooters at this moment in fact they only have one owners manual for all of their models with no wiring diagram so the only way to verify your assumption of the 12 pole stator is to actually open it up, if you have 3 yellows going to the R/R from the stator it's 3 phase but could be 11, 12 or in rare cases a 18 pole stator on a 150 scooter.

Now as far as your wife's scooter flickering indicates a poor connection or bad wire and the diagram for this scooter also says 3-phase so it should have ample charging and lighting capabilities.

As far as meter readings, on either scooter if they were out there I would know, wattage ratings? Figures vary everywhere. So it would be nice for someone to step up to the podium and do a diagnostic measuring of both scooters and fill everyone in on what is in these scooters and what the electrical system puts out.

I elect you.

JR