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Post by jjmanion on Jul 18, 2014 14:37:21 GMT -5
Looking for my first scooter and saw this posting: philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/4574504393.htmlIt is a 2009 E-Ton Matrix with less than 400 miles and seller is asking for 1150. What do you think I should offer and are you a fan of the scooter? Thanks, glad to be here. Jim
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Post by UniqueSP on Jul 18, 2014 15:00:34 GMT -5
I am not a big fan of it only because of the body parts are very difficult to find in the event you want to change them or get into an accident. as for the actual scooter looks good. One thing tho in the event you want more performance out of it is ask for the engine code. its stamped on the engine usually right below the transmission. If its a 157QMJ then its a good one and easily modified if your into that sort of thing. Try $800.00 offer and see what he says. If he says no then go a little higher until you feel comfortable. Make sure there is a title and and its in his name.
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Post by larrball on Jul 18, 2014 17:02:34 GMT -5
If it has a title and runs good then that's not a bad price for a E-ton with only 400 miles/Km on the clock. The E-ton 50's sell for around $1,500 around here. There right up there with Kymco as far as the quality. But like UniqueSP said, see if you can get it for less and make sure the body is not banged up them panels are hard to come by and not cheap. Just take a look at this Jim : columbiamo.craigslist.org/mcy/4552595088.htmlLet us know how it goes.
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Post by rockynv on Jul 18, 2014 22:03:44 GMT -5
Kelly Blue Book for a 2009 Eton Matrix 150 in good condition is $745 trade-in value and $1,195 retail from a dealership with a warranty. On a private sale $950 would be tops for one maintained however one that has been sitting and now has potential fuel system issues from that and 5 year old tires that have seen limited use so that the carbon black and fluids that suspend it settled to one side of the tire and leeched out into the pavement so they need to be replaced no matter how good they look outside along with other deteriorated rubber/vinyl items so you have to subtract from that for the tires, hoses, belts and other items that have dried out and will fail prematurely. Also if any of the sealed bearing are weeping then the grease inside them has started to separate from the pressure additives and base carrier so those will also need servicing.
Even with only 400 miles on it the engine and gear oil still needed to be changed annually and the brake fluid needed to be flushed out and replaced twice already and is coming up on the third scheduled brake fluid flush. At each brake fluid flush even if you don't need new pads you still need to use a silicone brake lube on the caliper pin and guides.
A 5 year old bike with only 400 miles can be worse than a 5 year old bike with 5,000 miles on it.
If you want it to last more than a year and can perform the services to make it roadworthy yourself then $500 to $700 and it may work out. At the price their asking by the time you get everything serviced and ready for regular use you could be paying out the same as if you bought a new one off the showroom floor especially if you have to pay someone else to do the work. Its really a roll of the dice so you have to ask if you can afford to play and take it as a total loss. If you try to skip by without servicing it you could be chancing brake loss, a zippered blowout, tire tread separation, wheel lockup, etc.
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Post by larrball on Jul 20, 2014 1:19:10 GMT -5
Good point rocky, he could use the Kelly Blue Book price as a barging tool. It's nice to know that the Kelly Blue Book covers the better made scooters.
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Post by jjmanion on Jul 21, 2014 8:28:54 GMT -5
I offered $900 and he said no since he paid $1300 for it. We'll see if he comes back with anything.
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