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Post by pheenix42 on Jul 8, 2014 3:41:20 GMT -5
Saw one in a local listing with a 30 mile range and swappable battery pack for less than $800. And no, it didn't have removable pedals. Something like this would do great for all the short range stuff I do here in town.
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Post by Paladin on Jul 8, 2014 14:59:14 GMT -5
Don't know electric scoots, and I am biased because of the battery problems caused by UPS failures on LANs.
A $800 electric scooter will be without batteries, or will be have lead-acid batteries. From my experience with lead-acid batteries, good for 3 years at best if used 30 miles a week. 30 miles a week, 50 weeks a year, 3 years, is 4500 miles. 4500 miles on a 50cc scoot getting 80 mpg using $5/gallon gasoline burns about $280. After 3 years the electric scoot is a throw-away, the gasoline scoot will be still usable.
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Post by pheenix42 on Jul 8, 2014 19:06:06 GMT -5
Paladin, thanks for your input--that's exactly the kind of knowledge I was hoping someone had. The scoot in question is one of these: emotoev.com/products/scooters/g3/index.html ...which is a bit surprising because for the original MSRP of more than $2,000 they seemed to be asking far too little for it.  |
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Post by spunn on Jul 8, 2014 23:18:28 GMT -5
Not familiar, but have electric golf carts for the river and hate the headache of the battery's
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Post by Paladin on Jul 9, 2014 0:12:44 GMT -5
Oooo.... Silicon Batteries. Google: www.google.com/#q=Silicon+Batteries+ :: Silicon batteries have not been yet manufactured. emotoev.com/dealer/ -- last update 2010, call us. The list of dealers they want the dealers to call them. They claim that are at 7849 S 180th St Kent, WA 98032. I see nothing on google maps street view, anyone area the Seattle area want to go scoot pass? Does the scooter actually exist? Can you look at it, feel it, try riding it, look at the batteries and see what they actually are? Photos would help. |
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Post by pheenix42 on Jul 9, 2014 18:29:59 GMT -5
They mean Silicone, not silicon. Silicone lead acid batteries supposedly are a good budget alternative to other rechargeable cell chemistries.
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Post by rockynv on Jul 10, 2014 0:47:43 GMT -5
The page stipulates: "The G3 uses a 2,000-watt brushless hub motor capable of powering the scooter to speeds exceeding 34-mph. The 40 amp-hour Silicon battery pack gives the G3 a range of over 30-miles, and can be recharged in 4-5 hours. Like all e-Moto scooter, adjustable shocks with front and rear disc brakes are all standard equipment. The G3 is available in two configurations. One is electronically limited to 28-mph to allow for operation without a motorcycle drivers license (where available). The other is not speed limited, for properly licensed riders, and in locales where there are no speed limits. Performance Limited Speed Vehicle 28-mph Regulated Top Speed 4-6-hours for total recharge 300 charge-cycle battery life True Range Mode A: 31 miles Mode B: 25 miles Mode C: 30 miles *Speed and range figures are subject to variable road conditions, rider weight, and speed. Actual performance may vary. " Is this the 28 mph 31 mile range DUI model or 34 mph 25 mile range bike? Basically if you ride over 20 minutes daily then the battery will potentially need replacement in about 42 weeks since it will need charging every day. 300 charges is not much and can go by very quickly. You might get 25 miles on a flat road on a calm day with no stops and a 125 lb rider however in stop and go with a mature adult who weighs closer to 200 lbs you may only get a 15 mile range when the batteries are new. As you close in on charge 300 you may be down to only 10 miles range and possibly less increasing the possibility of getting stranded. The potential $300 to $500 annual cost for the battery along with the 2 to 3 kilowatts a day ($45 or so a year) to charge it does not excite me since my bike costs me about $25 per month or $300 per year to ride at speeds of up to  mph. The bike could just be from one of the disappointed folks who dolled out $3000 for a 2012/2013 but received a 2009 and were refused a return or exchange and just want it gone now. I would contact the manufacture about the availability and price of a new battery before jumping on it. They really do not clearly stipulate this and no one appears to list the battery for sale. |
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