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Post by rockynv on Mar 22, 2013 12:48:02 GMT -5
Well Yea Rockynv, Spending a bunch of $ is always the way to go rather than working for a result  . That was no mistery . This info was for guys/gals that can't just go buy an Italian EFI scooter. Everybody knows that solution.  That was actually cheaper then putting down a credit card and upgrading my old bike. My choice was upgrade the old bike with money I did not have at 21% or trade the old bike and get a brand new one at 5%. The Italian fuel injected 250 also gets 30% to 40% better gas mileage than my old 150. Bottom line I spent no money purchasing the Aprilia 250 and it is paying for itself. I didn't have to do $1,000 to $1,500 in upgrades to it plus labor either. The temptation was there to keep my old bike and then throw a thousand or so into it for fuel injection etc however that was just too much money at too high an interest rate to justify. I could not afford the monthly payments to do that. The number just did not work. If you do the math and count the cost of buying the EFI parts on a high interest credit card, making monthly payments, the cost of alternate transportation while doing the upgrade and so on you may find purchasing an Italian Bike on sale a cheaper option. Remember I was so bad off that I did not think that I could get an Italian bike until on a lark I dropped by the local Aprilia dealer during factory specials and found that I was wrong. Some of their bikes even had 0% factory financing. When you compare the amortized cost of a $1,599 clone purchased on a credit card at 21% + interest to a $2,000 Italian bike with factory financing at 0% which is going to cost more to pay off? Add fuel injection to the $1,599 150cc clone purchasing it on a credit card and you will spend more than if you went out and bought the $2,999 dealer financed 250cc Italian bike that already has fuel injection. |
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Post by imnts2 on Mar 24, 2013 14:35:49 GMT -5
Hey I don't care how you get to EFI, but after having it on my cars and outboards, I had to get rid of the carb on my scoot. I found the easyiest way for me to go was some overtime and a used 400with EFI. I think we ought to have a Forum that was 100% EFI. I would enjoy hearing about the conversions as much as any topic here.
Rockvnv's comment leads me to wonder if if would be wise to consider raising the compression ratio a notch or two.
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Post by imnts2 on Mar 24, 2013 14:36:42 GMT -5
Hey I don't care how you get to EFI, but after having it on my cars and outboards, I had to get rid of the carb on my scoot. I found the easiest way for me to go was some overtime and a used 400with EFI. I think we ought to have a Forum that was 100% EFI. I would enjoy hearing about the conversions as much as any topic here.
Rockvnv's comment leads me to wonder if if would be wise to consider raising the compression ratio a notch or two.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 26, 2013 3:47:21 GMT -5
If the system has an antiknock sensor then you could go for shaving the head a bit as long as there was enough clearance between the valves and piston top. Moderation would be the key otherwise you could overload head bolts and lower ends.
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Post by imnts2 on Mar 26, 2013 7:57:18 GMT -5
I think your BMS will convert pretty easily and well. It is a water cooled engine that should set up and run well . However, I think Rocky is right. Most of us are better all focusing on getting and keeping a good job/business/profession and buying carefully. Lots of good EFI scoots out there used for low prices and they tend to be good for wellover 30,000 miles. My 440CC 06 had well under 7K on it when I bought it 2 years ago for $2600 Still a jewel with past 11K. Only scratches are mine.
Take your time , enjoy what youhave while youfigure out your next move.
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Post by armydog2010 on Mar 26, 2013 10:18:23 GMT -5
ok. cause i baught mine with under a 1000 mile. 936 miles exact. its carbed. i paid 640 cash for mine. havent picked it up but what they told me is. it will run but fuel pump needs to be reattached to motor and headlights wont turn on. opinions?
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Post by wilds on Mar 26, 2013 11:37:44 GMT -5
I cheated and found a local dealer who took my old bike in trade on a high compression Italian 250 designed from the ground up as a fuel injected bike. Sometimes that will cost less than tinkering with converting a low compression bike to EFI. Most bikes designed for fuel injection have a stator that puts out 300 to 500 watts which is needed to run the injection pump and consistently fire the fuel injector. Plus it was guaranteed to work right the first time I rode it and had the backing of a dealer network of factory trained mechanics here in the US and most of the world. The current draw isn't that much as one could believe on the EFI kit. I have a stock stator and I haven't had any problems. I did change all light bulbs in dashboard to LED and the rear/brake light to LED also... |
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Post by justbuggin2 on Mar 26, 2013 11:49:56 GMT -5
with the stock 8 pole stator mine would charge the battery but i do alot of short trips so i went to the 11 pole setup and have no problems keeping the battery charged now
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