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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:51:34 GMT -5
no ive watched and seen this topic. i read every bit of it. i been trying to tell him. let off the throttle. and it continues this is the second day. today ive watched as hes walked back and forth. id ont know what he does. i work on my bike but done it a bunch of times so when i spend a couple hours i do things. but i asked him to do 1 simple thing and he takes off doing something else. and your giving bad advice in the middle of it.
he dont need to adjustnothing if its not broke. the idle isnt at idle. the mixture isnt idling. it isnt mixed for idle. and the throttle is the 2nd facotr its not at idle. when it dont run doenst mean its not idling. or whatever. YOu need an idle. and idle is not hoolding the throttle wide open and it running. ....
its the throttle barely cracked open. reads like that in every carubretor tuning manual. barely cracked. just enough air to feed the engine at idle. to do that, you need the cable adjusted, andd the screw adjusted.
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 7, 2014 19:51:49 GMT -5
Ok smart guy ADDRESS why the rear wheel is spinning really fast at 1600 rpms. EXPLAIN TO US DUMMY's what is causing the rear wheel to spin really fast at LOW RPMS. We all want to learn something.
Alleyoop
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:54:24 GMT -5
it just is. stock springs. they do that. and i dont even see his rear wheel in that video. and its not that fast. his rpms are too high. maybe the engines putting out more torque, from running leannnnn. when it does do, a revolution is more torquey from lean. but its a stock spring. dont worry about it, is my point, if its not giving you trouble and you can keep it running. if at 1100 rpm its not spinning, then dont worry. if it is, then maybe then you got a problem. but if you dont like it, buy some other performance springs...
so dont worry. first, he cant even lower his idle to 1100 rpms without it dying. he cant adjust the idle at all. says he hasnt got the mixture set right.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:58:53 GMT -5
im not 100% like i dont have a tach gauge myself. to know what my clutch bell does at 1100 rpms. to say what it does, or ever has done anywehre. but. answer a few questisons for me. can you lower your idle? if it runs, lower it with the idle screw. if its not got any slackin your throttle cable, at it all the way shut off. that screw turned out, until its not pushing, against, the other thing. ? a jigger. whatever, then your throttle cable needs adjusted. or whatever,needs fixed. something. does. something needs fixed.
and also, what screw turns out, is the mixture screw set at?
its in a manual that the mixture screw doesnt come out more than 3 1/2 turns .. and not less that 1 1/4 turns. if it does. then that means yo NEED TO CHANGE THE PILOT JET.
if you cant figure this out yu cant set the idle you cant have it run and you cant GO fix something else.
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 7, 2014 19:59:17 GMT -5
Forget about 1100 rpms it will NOT IDLE at 1600 rpms and at that point BECAUSE the Clutch is already engaged and turning the rear wheel to fast IF HE PUT ON THE BRAKES TO STOP THE REAR WHEEL FROM SPINNING THE MOTOR DIES.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE PROBLEM?
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:00:15 GMT -5
i see your bike idling up as you turned in the mix screw. i see your idle adjustment screw, wayyy up there. you know thats attached to the gas, pedal right? whatever percent its pushed out, from closed, from the one side, touchign the other, is the amount of gas pedal your giving it. ? im thking yoru at oh around 1/10 throttle orso. too much
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:00:50 GMT -5
Forget about 1100 rpms it will NOT IDLE at 1600 rpms and at that point BECAUSE the Clutch is already engaged and turning the rear wheel to fast IF HE PUT ON THE BRAKES TO STOP THE REAR WHEEL FROM SPINNING THE MOTOR DIES. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE PROBLEM? engine braking. strain. lean. dies. ive said that like a billion times, already |
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:02:51 GMT -5
its putting strain since the clutch bell is attached then to the motor if its spinning the rear wheel. hit the brakes, its like hitting th egas and going up a hill. your putting a load on it.
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 7, 2014 20:02:59 GMT -5
YES we all know that BUT WHY IS THE REAR WHEEL SPINNING SO FAST AT LOW IDLE that if you put on the brakes it dies. The clutch should not engaged and spinning the wheel so fast that it puts a load at idle.
DOES YOURS DIE WHEN YOU PUT ON THE BRAKES?
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:05:39 GMT -5
why is the rear wheel spinning so fast that if you put on the brakes it dies?
that doesnt really make sense. those are 2 seperate things.
spinning so fast. maybe like i said its lean and very torquey. its on the center stand. no load on the bike. then you slam the brakes real quick. it loads up the motor. and sicne its lean. ever had a leancarb? its lke when he revs it back, hes puttting a load, the piston bangs and thats a load. that is. and it dies.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:09:30 GMT -5
going up a hill, is brakign in reverse. a motor is making horsepower. all it is is a pushing or pulling machine. it runs things. works. pretty much goes up and down and is connceted to some crankshaft rod. which spins a shaft, that you connect to your bicycle tire to turn you and go up a hill with. each bang of themotor is a load. if you add more its called adding a load. once its running, its running you cant call it that anymore.
give it gas, its called a load. work.
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 7, 2014 20:11:46 GMT -5
Wrong, That was a TEST to see if you really know something and you DON'T.
I am done with you so do not garbage up this thread anymore with your silly stuff.
Alleyoop
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:16:35 GMT -5
your the one who says hand tighten to this guy a clutch nut are you testing him?
a load on a motor is work. so any work the motor does. if its running you dont call that load. or loading.
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 7, 2014 20:20:49 GMT -5
Look at this Video do you see the rear wheel spinning do you see the BELL on the clutch spinning(NO). That is what we are trying to accomplish SO IT DOES NOT PUT A LOAD ON THE MOTOR and cause it to die at low RPMS. Alleyoop |
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:22:54 GMT -5
but whats considered too low rpms for load on the motor? no load should kill the motor unless its loaded down, and it has to spin pretty fast to get the clutch to catch, spin th erear wheel. so dont worry about it.
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..BAD TO THE BONE..