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Post by nulldevice on May 2, 2014 21:49:10 GMT -5
Check out the videos on this page. tredwearletters.com/Their product, tire paint pen, Zisner primer, it doesn't matter. Clean the surface. |
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Post by justbuggin2 on May 2, 2014 22:31:19 GMT -5
what about checking to see if you can get some faux sidewalls that mount between the tire and wheel
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 2, 2014 23:49:29 GMT -5
Spandi,
THAT would be another excellent possibility. It is made to stick to weird plastic! Could be it would work. I'm seeing that NEW tires are "problematical" while OLD tires probably could take most any but very brittle paint. But I surely like the way these NEW tires ride! LOL! Leo (trying all SORTS of stuff...) in Texas
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 3, 2014 0:01:25 GMT -5
Check out the videos on this page. tredwearletters.com/Their product, tire paint pen, Zisner primer, it doesn't matter. Clean the surface. Nulldevice, Absolutely! The instructions with the "Dr. Whitewall" paint SPECIFY that all lettering be ground off, and the entire sidewall be harshly ground with a disk grinder, completely removing all of the entire surface, then cleaning with lacquer-thinner and then with detergent and hot water. Not wanting to destroy the factory markings, I prepped the sidewalls with lacquer-thinner as recommended, and did the entire surface with a green pad, then lacquer-thinner again, then detergent and hot water, then hot water rinse. That's about all the prep one can do short of the full grinding-down of the sidewall. All was great with 50 mph or less speed, indicating the prep worked (before mounting, I even tested the paint by digging at the edges with a knife, and couldn't get it to peel at all). Then, one high-speed run and the oils inside the tire came to the surface and released the paint. This stuff is NOT recommended for NEW tires, and with good reason it seems. From past experience, I think an oil-based paint will be more tolerant to the tire oils, allowing them to possibly become part of the paint undersurface. We'll see... It's a crap-shoot for sure... Leo |
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Post by spandi on May 3, 2014 0:26:13 GMT -5
Spandi,
THAT would be another excellent possibility. It is made to stick to weird plastic! Could be it would work. I'm seeing that NEW tires are "problematical" while OLD tires probably could take most any but very brittle paint. But I surely like the way these NEW tires ride! LOL! Leo (trying all SORTS of stuff...) in Texas I figured this might work for you as he has had them painted for over a year, and being a car probably had it at highway speeds (70+) plenty of times. |
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 3, 2014 0:39:57 GMT -5
Spandi,
THANKS for the heads-up! This fellow is onto something. The plastic primer should be the most likely to stick of any paint I can think of. Even he had a few peels, and fine cracks. Most likely his tires were relatively new too. My local Wally World has both Rustoleum AND Krylon. I believe I WILL try one of these! Can't be any worse than the other stuff... LOL! Probably much better! If it only does some minor peel, touching up would be easy. Eventually, you'd get the whole thing white for good...
Thanks again!
Leo
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 3, 2014 0:43:29 GMT -5
what about checking to see if you can get some faux sidewalls that mount between the tire and wheel You can, but "Porta-Walls" are usually not a lasting item. They tend to yellow, lift away from the tire, etc. And they are not usually good with tubeless tires. I used them in the sixties on cars, but found paint products to be better, though far from perfect... Thanks for the idea though, Leo |
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Post by spandi on May 3, 2014 16:40:53 GMT -5
Spandi,
THANKS for the heads-up! This fellow is onto something. The plastic primer should be the most likely to stick of any paint I can think of. Even he had a few peels, and fine cracks. Most likely his tires were relatively new too. My local Wally World has both Rustoleum AND Krylon. I believe I WILL try one of these! Can't be any worse than the other stuff... LOL! Probably much better! If it only does some minor peel, touching up would be easy. Eventually, you'd get the whole thing white for good... Thanks again!Leo You're quite welcome Leo! I only hope I works for you. In the article he said he had only minor cracking in the paint that could be easily touched up as needed. Hope it works as well for Minnie!  |
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Post by walterwhite on May 3, 2014 20:01:46 GMT -5
i always wanted to know if they made whitewalls for gy6 150's? havent found one yet
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 4, 2014 1:21:53 GMT -5
i always wanted to know if they made whitewalls for gy6 150's? havent found one yet
Whether you can find whitewalls for your 150 depends on the tire size. My Xingyue had 13" wheels and I could not find factory whitewalls in 13" size. Many 10" 11" and 12" tires are available in factory whites. For example, my Kymco has 12" wheels, with the front being a 120/70/12 and the rear being a 140/70/12. Shinko was the only maker I found who offered a P-rated whitewall in the 120 front size. Shinko also offered a potential rear in 130 size, but not my required 140. Whitewalls are probably more available for Vespa (and Buddy) scooters than any others, mainly in the 10" and 11" sizes. If your scooter will run steady over 60 mph, you also need to pay attention to the speed-rating. My long search for whitewalls for mine really did prompt me to seek a way to paint them on quality blackwalls... I'm finding it's not easy though! Hope this may help,Leo |
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 4, 2014 1:27:16 GMT -5
Spandi,
I found BOTH Rustoleum, AND Krylon flat, white PLASTIC primer and got both. As soon as I can, I'll try one on one side, and one on the other, and run them a while and see what happens. I'll see if either brand is better, and if either one works on my tire at all. What a pain to simply put a 2" white stripe on a rear wheel, but it makes SUCH a difference in the appearance of the scooter! To me at least, it's worth it.
I'll post my experiences...
Leo
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Post by SylvreKat on May 4, 2014 16:31:00 GMT -5
I'll try one on one side, and one on the other, and run them a while and see what happens. I'll see if either brand is better, and if either one works on my tire at all. Just don't forget which one you spray on which side!   >'Kat |
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Post by spandi on May 4, 2014 20:29:50 GMT -5
Spandi,
I found BOTH Rustoleum, AND Krylon flat, white PLASTIC primer and got both. As soon as I can, I'll try one on one side, and one on the other, and run them a while and see what happens. I'll see if either brand is better, and if either one works on my tire at all. What a pain to simply put a 2" white stripe on a rear wheel, but it makes SUCH a difference in the appearance of the scooter! To me at least, it's worth it. I'll post my experiences...Leo Great idea Leo! Now everyone interested in "homemade" whitewalls will get the benefit of your product evaluation. (You'll find out which works best for sure) Leo, You're going to end up the "Consumer Reports" of Scooterdom!  |
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 4, 2014 21:26:38 GMT -5
Well boys and girls,
I did the right sidewall today with the RUSTOLEUM plastic primer. It looks FABULOUS! Tomorrow, I'll try to do the left sidewall with the KRYLON.
I'm not going to do much riding for a week, and keep all speeds down below 50 until then, as the Rustoleum specifies that it doesn't reach "full-adhesion" on plastic for 5 to 7 days. I want to give the paint EVERY chance to cure properly, and hope for the best, as I don't really want to do this AGAIN!... LOL!
If it lasts like it did on the fellow's French car, I'll be a happy camper, since being SPRAYED, it looks exactly like a factory whitewall, with all lettering intact.
I'll report on it as soon as it's well-cured.
More later,
Leo
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Post by rockynv on May 5, 2014 12:08:45 GMT -5
A friend up north use to do this professionally and it involved two tools one to rotate the wheel on the vehicle and another with a sanding drum to dress a rabbit/groove in the sidewall to put the whitewall in. I believe he had to take at least a 64th to a 32nd of an inch off to have success and could not go too far from the bead to where the tire flexed as it rolled.
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