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Post by ramblinman on Mar 10, 2014 6:03:53 GMT -5
as some of you know i recently purchased a new 150cc Jonway. the headache of ordering a scooter online should come to an end today, should have paperwork and plates this evening.
first thing i noticed is working on a 150 is going to be more time consuming than my 50cc. i haven't been able to adjust the air/fuel ratio yet, i can't get a screw driver in the small space.
other than spare belt, cdi, spark plug, fuel line and basic tools, what else would you take on this trip? i have about 7 weeks to get my ride ready.
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Post by novaraptor on Mar 10, 2014 9:23:28 GMT -5
I usually carry a small electric air pump and tire repair kit under the seat, and a portable 600 watt power station from PEP Boys. If the Jonway has a kick start, then you won't need the power unit. Of course, if you have this stuff, you probably won't need any of it. If you don't have spare parts, you will always need something...
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 10, 2014 10:12:43 GMT -5
I usually carry a small electric air pump and tire repair kit under the seat, and a portable 600 watt power station from PEP Boys. If the Jonway has a kick start, then you won't need the power unit. Of course, if you have this stuff, you probably won't need any of it. If you don't have spare parts, you will always need something... my kick start is broken. plan to fix before i go if i can figure it out. i found this vid, hope it is easy as it seems. i'll add air pump and tire patch to my list if i can find a very small pump. thx |
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Post by urbanmadness on Mar 10, 2014 10:50:28 GMT -5
I'd change the belt before you go. Put in a gates powerlink. The power link on a 150 is good for about 2,000-4000 miles. That way you don't need to carry the spare belt, or the impact wrench to get the vairator and clutch off. (if you shread a belt, you will be removing the clutch to get the carnage cleaned out)
I'd plan on doing an oil change at your destinaltion so carry a quart of oil. If you run at WOT for any length of time, you will want to check the oil each and every fill up. Also, bring the correct size funnel. Very hard to find on the road sometimes.
Something to keep in mind on long touring runs.... You will tend to run the scooter at higher speeds, sometimes WOT for extended periods... If you tank is in the floor, it has a vacuum fuel pump. When you run WOT for an extended period of time, you loose vacuum and the pump will quit and the fuel bowl on the carb will go completely empty... and the scooter will just all the sudden go dead... when that happens on the road, just close the throttle, feather it a little and she will come back to life. This is typical, normal, even tho it seems very Aby-Normal.
The Air cooled 150's in stock form with a decent PDI, are pretty bullet proof. Just don't over rev her, (really watch it down hills) and you shouldn't have problems. It is a Honda design, afterall... The motors, do really well. Keep her under 55 (via gps, not the speedo) and you will do fine.
I did 7k on my 150 before I sold it.... and alot of that was WOT riding. The bike is still going strong with the new owner.
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 10, 2014 15:08:55 GMT -5
I'd change the belt before you go. Put in a gates powerlink. The power link on a 150 is good for about 2,000-4000 miles. That way you don't need to carry the spare belt, or the impact wrench to get the vairator and clutch off. (if you shread a belt, you will be removing the clutch to get the carnage cleaned out). idk, i was planning to bring my impact wrench. when i took the cover off the other day to get belt size and inspect the kick start it came with a bando belt. assuming it's not a counterfeit they are nearly as good as gates, no? anyhow, i've never gone on such a long trip on a scooter and figured the belt would take a beating so planned on bringing 2 spare belts and impact. idk if i can be swayed to leave it behind. i'd rather have it and not need it, i think. i'm using the entire underseat storage for parts and tools (it's small). going to strap my duffle bag to the rear seat. at least that was the original plan i had in mind. edit: i might put a few tools in my bag instead of under the seat just so i don't break the plastic with all the weight. (now that i think about it) |
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Post by spandi on Mar 10, 2014 16:14:22 GMT -5
Well assuming the Bando belt is real, they cost more than the Gates product. (Made in Japan too.)
....Oh yeah, tire repair kit and headband mounted flashlight.
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Post by JR on Mar 10, 2014 17:40:44 GMT -5
Be sure to get a good bit of riding in before you go. On an old forum a guy took off on a brand new motor and burned it up because it was not broke in and he insisted on treating it like a broken in scooter. I'd suggest a good 500 miles and a fresh oil change. Then still don't try and keep it up to 50mph all the time, 45 should be the usual top speed, 40 even better.
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 10, 2014 18:04:55 GMT -5
Be sure to get a good bit of riding in before you go. On an old forum a guy took off on a brand new motor and burned it up because it was not broke in and he insisted on treating it like a broken in scooter. I'd suggest a good 500 miles and a fresh oil change. Then still don't try and keep it up to 50mph all the time, 45 should be the usual top speed, 40 even better. that shouldn't be a problem. this scoot will be my only transportation (after i sell the 50) expect to put about 2,000km on her before i leave... speaking of burning up engines, i should seriously look into finding a pro to tune my carb. i'm still not confident i can tell if my scoot is running lean.  |
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 10, 2014 18:35:34 GMT -5
To check if you're too lean, put in a fresh spark plug, then go on a WOT ride for 3-5 miles. Pull over, pull the spark plug, then look for a nice coffee color on the white of the porcelain inside the threads. Here's a chart to go by:  |
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Post by PCBGY6 on Mar 10, 2014 18:49:03 GMT -5
Let's not forget a couple of bottled waters and a few snacks in case you you get stuck on the side of the road.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 10, 2014 18:57:20 GMT -5
Vacuum line and clips. Something to cut the vacuum line.
Zip ties of various sizes are handy if wiring or hoses start moving around. Small zip ties make a great hose clamp in a pinch. I always use both, the metal clip and a zip tie on fuel and vacuum lines.
Don't plan on the included took kit to be useful.
A few 8mm flange bolts, 10mm flange bolts, and body screws in case anything shakes loose.
A cell phone - remember to call a motorcycle towing company, not just a tow company if you need one. A M/C tow is less than half the cost.
It is also handy to drill a hole in the skin directly across from the carb adjustment screw. Buy a rubber plug for the hole before you drill the hole! It makes life easier if you have a flakey carb. Better yet spend between $23 to $75 on a good quality Japanese carb, and replace it before you go.
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Post by JR on Mar 11, 2014 23:45:45 GMT -5
regarding the carb, from the factory it is probably set a little on the lean side. You could just bump the jet up a size and probably be fine. Running a little rich is preferable to running lean.
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Post by earlylight160 on Mar 12, 2014 12:31:19 GMT -5
Jerry.
Thanks for posting the spark plug chop chart. I saved the image and then printed it in highest resolution full size. I then had a friend laminate it for me. I now carry it in my under seat storage compartment for ready reference whenever I might need it.
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Post by jerseyboy on Mar 12, 2014 13:33:23 GMT -5
This is a great thread so far,,I plan on going on a 150 mile loop this summer..have gates belt,and a spare stock belt under the seat with a spanner tool I made to hold the variator while breaking the nut..thanks for all the tips guys,,I plan on buying a new long case motor this summer and do a BBK to it,,so Im gonna run the one I have now pretty hard...LOL
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 14, 2014 9:09:21 GMT -5
a few parts arrived yesterday. got 2 spare gates belts, 3 ft fuel line, fuel filter and valve stems. was planning on ordering 2 Pirelli tires and upgrading when i installed the valve stems but these 13" tires are a bit more than i can afford at the moment. the stock tires will have to due for now but those stock valve stems are going in the recycle bin.
soon as i determine if it is AC or DC i'm going to get the casoli CDI from John.
still on the lookout for a mini tire pump and headband mounted flashlight
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