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Post by dakotafig on Feb 14, 2014 11:00:31 GMT -5
Ok, so my status so far, and the eventual goal of this post is to have a good in depth guide to upgrading from an 8 pole to an 11 pole stator. A little bit of background, from what I have read I am fairly lucky because I have stock 55 watt headlights, and they are very bright. I never had a problem driving at night. One day I noticed my headlights didn't come on anymore. All my dash lights, turn signals ect worked. Also at the same time, suddenly my battery would be dead after about 2 days of driving. Sooo...... The 55 watt headlights and the rest of the load was probably to much for the stock rectifier and it died. I purchased an 8 pole stator and matching rectifier from John (tvnacman). Pulling the stock stator was easy after taking the air shroud and cooling fan off. I used a gy6 flywheel puller to remove the flywheel. After writing this I have realized my flickr account is being a pain and not embedding pictures...... I will get that figured out and continue this post...... New stator installed: Now the real questions. The new stator has these outputs (three yellows, green, red/black tracer, yellow/blue tracer): Here is what the stock stator plugged into on the scooter (yellow, white, green): Here is the wires going to the stock CDI (red/white tracer, black/red tracer): Here is the wires on the new rectifier (red, green, black, white): Lastly, here is the stock rectifier with the plug going to it (yellow, white, red, green): This much I know.... The three yellow wires from the stator need to go directly to the three yellow inputs on the new rectifier. For those I just plan on running three new wires all the way up. The green wire from the rectifier should go to the scooter ground, which I believe should be the green from the stock rectifier plug. The red wire should go to the main DC power distribution of the scooter, which should be the red in the stock rectifier bundle. Is this correct so far? Also, for the cdi wires coming from the new stator, which color goes to which one for the actual scoot cdi connection? What do I need to do with the rest of the wires coming from the regulator? I'm working on a wiring diagram piece by piece and I will be posting that soon. Basically, for the new rectifier, what is the function of each of those wires, the red, green, black and white? Thanks, Eric.
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Post by millsc on Feb 14, 2014 11:14:19 GMT -5
My bike has a dc 12 pole stator my lights are plenty bright. I've had 10 scooters in the last few years and its definitely the brightest. I have night blindness but I can take my bike out at night and still see pretty good.
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Post by millsc on Feb 14, 2014 11:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by justbuggin2 on Feb 14, 2014 13:22:40 GMT -5
yea you have a good understanding of the system if you look in the tech section Jr has a howto for this
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Post by alleyoop on Feb 14, 2014 14:02:15 GMT -5
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 14, 2014 17:07:05 GMT -5
alleyoop, that document is great. I have seen the diagrams individually, but not all in one place. That should get me going. I was planning on actually putting two relays in, one for the ignition to take the "ignition on" load away from the switch and one for "engine on" load.
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 14, 2014 17:11:30 GMT -5
Actually, I guess I still have the questions about the pickup in the stator bundle. There are two wires from the stator and two wires on the scoot (the individual connectors) and I don't know which color goes with which.
4th and 6th pictures from first post......
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 14, 2014 18:32:48 GMT -5
Red/black is ignition power, blue/white is pulse.
I have not had a chance to get a new phone yet.
John
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 14, 2014 18:35:09 GMT -5
This has changed a bit. John
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 14, 2014 18:59:00 GMT -5
So the white wire is a frequency output, so it's AC? The fuel enricher actually runs off AC? What voltage is it?
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Post by alleyoop on Feb 14, 2014 19:02:22 GMT -5
Yes, the white wire goes to the ENRICHER. Alleyoop
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 14, 2014 19:07:49 GMT -5
After I posted that it dawned on me that doesn't make any sense, the fuel enricher is DC because that's how you test it is putting 12vdc to it...... Unless I'm missing something.
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 14, 2014 21:39:48 GMT -5
the enricher will work with ac or dc voltage . The white wire I think its under 15vac , I would have to check that and get back to you . However I can not get to my scooter to test it till the outside temp comes up for a few days .
John
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Post by alleyoop on Feb 14, 2014 22:01:31 GMT -5
You want Vac on the Enricher so it takes a little longer to heat up to extend the plunger to shut off the extra fuel(3-4 minutes). With straight 12DC it heats up to fast and extends out before the motor gets a chance to warm up a little. Alleyoop
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 14, 2014 22:22:14 GMT -5
Ok, that makes sense then. So, if I want to run a relay off the white wire for the headlights I probably need a 12vac relay and not a 12vdc relay.
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