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Post by ninjamobile on Jan 26, 2014 13:23:22 GMT -5
This is weird, so I ordered a new stator that is the same 8 pole as the old, the new stator has a different 3 pin connector than the old. (Pictured below) (Old connector to stator) imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/196/it06.jpgNew connector new stator: imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/822/rznf.jpgSo since I was using the old wiring harness, I just cut the new stator 3 prong (2nd pic) and replaced it with the old stator 3 prong. I saw that the stator with the 2 quick connect plugs lit the cdi, but did not fire the spark plug (ignition coil is in good condition.) This pic is the 2 quick connect plugs that is problematic. imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/21/v8y5.jpgNow the wire colors off the new & old stator is the EXACT same color - the only difference is the color from the cdi to wire harness of the bike. All the wires are plugged in, and seem to be correct, the issue is the 3 pic I posted, the 2 quick connects - if I swap the wires, red/black to red/white & blue/white to red/white - the spark plug fires but not the cdi, but if I reverse them and put red/white to blue/white - the cdi fires but not the spark plug - both won't fire at the same time. I later on removed the old stator 3 prong and replaced it with the new 3 prong in pic 2 thinking the new stator required the bigger prongs. And same result.
So what gives? Course I thought the red/black was power that went elsewhere not the stator, but the red/white on the 3 prong of the cdi was the only one that went to the stator. Maybe I got confused but the wiring is the same as it was before. But its almost like the 2 quick connects is grounding out the other.
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Post by ninjamobile on Jan 26, 2014 13:33:28 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that as the new stator came with the different 3 prong, I had the same connector on a spare wiring harness that I replaced on the current wiring harness the bike came with. The new harness won't work with the bike as it has 2 plugs that don't match the bike for the steering area. Then it had 1 extra plug toward the cdi area that didn't connect to anything.
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Post by scootdoggydog on Jan 26, 2014 15:18:51 GMT -5
what was the reason for getting a new stator is it possible there is a problem (something wrong) with the cdi?
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 26, 2014 15:59:50 GMT -5
Best way is to follow the wires from the CDI to the Stator. Making sure the Pickup Coil from the stator connects with the CDIs slot for the Trigger. Then the wire from the CDI to the COIL. That leaves you with the green for ground on the 4 plug . Then on the Two Plug you have a Killswitch wire usually Black/ White, on Top and you should have the Power wire from the stator on the bottom. What probably is the problem is that the wires from the stator going into the white plug were connected in the wrong slots in the plug. Alleyoop
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Post by ninjamobile on Jan 26, 2014 16:37:43 GMT -5
I didn't remove the wiring from the plug,. I just cut the wires about 3in from the plug, then stripped back and reconnected the solid colors off the stator to the new 3 way plug seen in pic 2.
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 26, 2014 16:50:21 GMT -5
did you call the vender you got it from ?
John
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Post by ninjamobile on Jan 26, 2014 16:57:54 GMT -5
I received a voicemail from a tech but he was a foreigner and couldn't understand him at all - I hate calling places for support anyway, that's why I come here.
The reason I cut the wires, is I've had issues disconnecting the wires from the plugs and putting them in another, they don't sit securely, so cutting and splicing wires is easier.
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 26, 2014 16:59:16 GMT -5
I know what you did BRO, I am saying CHECK each wire on the CDI and follow the main THREE wires back to the STATOR, The Trigger wire on the left top on the 4 plug on the CDI should come from the Pick Up Coil. Then the COIL wire right next to it should go to your COIL. That leaves the main wire to the CDI the power wire should be going to your stator dedicated to the CDI. The rest are for your R/R lights and charging.
I just red your post again and you SAID this:
If the Spark plug is fireing that is what you want. What do you mean the CDI is does not fire or FIRES??? That is what the CDI is supposed to do is send voltage to the COIL when it picks up the signal from the PIck up COil that is ALL it is supposed to do. Alleyoop
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Post by ninjamobile on Jan 26, 2014 17:06:45 GMT -5
Oh, I have the no rev limit cdi - it has the LED light on it that is how I know its firing - but the part of one or the other does not fire is valid - its those 2 quick connects - I have saved the diagrams and will check on the wiring.
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