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Post by ramblinman on Dec 13, 2013 1:20:07 GMT -5
i want something durable first, performance second. i just replaced mine about 1000 miles ago with a cheap one off ebay. i haven't pulled the cover yet but i can tell something isn't right. going to inspect it tomorrow. think i only paid $24 delivered which is a great price but not so great if you have to replace every 1K miles. i'm willing to spend more for a new one if anyone knows who sells a durable clutch.
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Post by nulldevice on Dec 13, 2013 10:56:11 GMT -5
What part(s) did you replace? What people call the clutch ranges from the variator on the crankshaft to any one or two of several parts on the transmission input shaft.
Let us know what you find tomorrow. It may be something broke or came loose after you installed the clutch.
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Post by americanpsycho on Dec 13, 2013 12:02:29 GMT -5
Depends, is it a GY6 style engine?
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Post by rockynv on Dec 13, 2013 12:35:43 GMT -5
Parts for Scooters is my first choice since they are local to me and have always treated me well. I have an Aprilia now but I still check there first before anywhere else as they are always expanding their product line. Will probably be ordering some Dr. Pully sliders from there shortly. Just hitting 20,000 miles and will be inspecting the sliders and belt at 24,000 for the second belt/roller service and forth regulary scheduled oil change.
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Post by ramblinman on Dec 13, 2013 12:50:59 GMT -5
What part(s) did you replace? What people call the clutch ranges from the variator on the crankshaft to any one or two of several parts on the transmission input shaft. Let us know what you find tomorrow. It may be something broke or came loose after you installed the clutch. this is what i am referring too. with just a visual inspection i can't see any broken parts. i'm going to sand the pads and bell, hope that solves the problem. it has been grabbing really hard which is what happened with my old clutch just before it completely broke. Depends, is it a GY6 style engine? yes, taotao atm50 Parts for Scooters is my first choice since they are local to me and have always treated me well. I have an Aprilia now but I still check there first before anywhere else as they are always expanding their product line. Will probably be ordering some Dr. Pully sliders from there shortly. Just hitting 20,000 miles and will be inspecting the sliders and belt at 24,000 for the second belt/roller service and forth regulary scheduled oil change. thx, i've ordered a part or 2 from them before. do you know a quality brand i should consider? going to try and make my clutch work for now but i definitely want to upgrade. i'll be taking this scoot on a 500 mile round trip in about 4-5 months. need to work out as many bugs as possible before then.
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Post by americanpsycho on Dec 13, 2013 13:08:03 GMT -5
Call Heeter's Performance Center in North Manchester, IN. They maybe able to help hook you up.
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 13, 2013 13:23:08 GMT -5
Did it come with the bell or did you use your old one? What size engine 50 or 150cc ? Did you replace the Chinese grease and or make sure the pivot points are/were lubed?
I'm not knocking you just want to make sure your doing everything that is needed to ensure long term use.
I have both size clutches and would be willing to do above stated.
John
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 13, 2013 13:23:23 GMT -5
Did it come with the bell or did you use your old one? What size engine 50 or 150cc ? Did you replace the Chinese grease and or make sure the pivot points are/were lubed?
I'm not knocking you just want to make sure your doing everything that is needed to ensure long term use.
I have both size clutches and would be willing to do above stated.
John
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 13, 2013 13:24:23 GMT -5
Did it come with the bell or did you use your old one? What size engine 50 or 150cc ? Did you replace the Chinese grease and or make sure the pivot points are/were lubed?
I'm not knocking you just want to make sure your doing everything that is needed to ensure long term use.
I have both size clutches and would be willing to do above stated.
John
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 13, 2013 13:24:42 GMT -5
Did it come with the bell or did you use your old one? What size engine 50 or 150cc ? Did you replace the Chinese grease and or make sure the pivot points are/were lubed?
I'm not knocking you just want to make sure your doing everything that is needed to ensure long term use.
I have both size clutches and would be willing to do above stated.
John
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Post by ramblinman on Dec 13, 2013 13:32:53 GMT -5
Did it come with the bell or did you use your old one? What size engine 50 or 150cc ? Did you replace the Chinese grease and or make sure the pivot points are/were lubed? I'm not knocking you just want to make sure your doing everything that is needed to ensure long term use. I have both size clutches and would be willing to do above stated. John 50cc. came with a new bell and i didn't add any grease to the new clutch.
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Post by rockynv on Dec 13, 2013 15:24:41 GMT -5
You need to add grease to the needle bearings that ride on the clutch/driven shaft going into the gear box to get good life from them.
The standard clutch Parts For Scooters sells is good quality however you can call and talk to them during normal business hours Eastern Time and they would be happy to have a tech advise you. You might even get Matt to come to the phone.
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Post by fugaziiv on Dec 13, 2013 15:39:49 GMT -5
You need to add grease to the needle bearings that ride on the clutch/driven shaft going into the gear box to get good life from them. The standard clutch Parts For Scooters sells is good quality however you can call and talk to them during normal business hours Eastern Time and they would be happy to have a tech advise you. You might even get Matt to come to the phone. Only if you're really lucky... lol. Anyway, Like Rocky said, the standard clutch that we sell isn't too shabby for a MIC (Made In China) product. It's got nice long pads, which helps with the longevity of the product: www.partsforscooters.com/151-232_Clutch_shoes_qmb139?sc=38&category=138773If you want to step it up, you are most likely going to want a product from Taiwan. You'll notice better build quality immediately, and very nice clutch pad surface volume as well. They do cost a bit more however, but this is what I'd typically recommend: www.partsforscooters.com/169-187_QMB-GY6-50cc_Transmission-Kit?sc=38&category=138773But just to put the cost of that clutch into perspective, if you wanted a high end performance clutch, you be looking at one of these, and this is where things get a bit spendy. You'd only want this one of you were dealing with a lot of power and needed to be able to fine tune the engagement point of your clutch: www.partsforscooters.com/169-224_HiT_ClutchHope this all helps. Naturally, make sure your measurements (number of splines, various diameters, etc.) match up before ordering anything from anyone. It could help to save some headache down the road. Matt
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Post by urbanmadness on Dec 13, 2013 16:08:45 GMT -5
the other thing to check, is the Idle speed. If it's too high, it will partially engage the clutch, and glaze it...
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 13, 2013 16:14:38 GMT -5
the other thing to check, is the Idle speed. If it's too high, it will partially engage the clutch, and glaze it... 2nd this John
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