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Post by scooterstan on Sept 22, 2013 8:27:33 GMT -5
After riding for sometime, about 2 hours, the bike has to sit for at least 30 minutes before restarting. It will crank and even start, then die and will not restart. I planned to adjust the valves, not sure that will help. Looks like .10 mm for the intake and .15 mm for the exhaust should work. Has anyone else had this problem? My wife rides a similar '09 bv250 and hasn't had any problems.
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Post by bhinch on Sept 22, 2013 9:59:26 GMT -5
Not sure which engine you have...but the 257cc Linhai the intake is .004 and exhaust is .006. It will make a difference on how the engine performs and idles.
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Post by rockynv on Sept 22, 2013 11:22:46 GMT -5
There was a fuel pump technical service bulletin out on the 250 so before you mess with it call the local dealer or Piaggio's main number and have them check if the service has been carried out. The supplier of the fuel injector pump cheated and put in a pump that was not ethanol compliant so the impeller swells up and binds preventing the fuel pressure from reaching the minumum required to start the bike.
Even on a used bike this is a free service that Piaggio pays 100% for both parts and labor.
The valves are good for 12,500 or so miles before they require adjustment. The maintenace schedule on the Piaggio 250 which is also in my Aprilia calls for checking them every 12,500 miles. The schedule is then 12,500, 25,000, 37,500 and so on. Oil change with the recomended synthetic is every 6,250 miles and belt checks are every 12,500. Brake fluid and coolant are on a 2 year flush and changout scedule.
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Post by redscoot on Oct 2, 2013 8:09:24 GMT -5
I have a 260 linhai that did the same thing,my bike would run perfect for a few min,then the cdi would get hot,it would shut down and would not start till cdi cooled off.I would check that first and your ignition coil will cause the same thing.I would bet on one of those being your problem.Also check all your connections.
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Post by flyangler on Oct 2, 2013 9:12:05 GMT -5
This is a Piaggio recall problem, its the fuel pump, they will change it out for you at no cost to you. Find the nearest dealer.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 3, 2013 4:22:35 GMT -5
ScooterStan - How did things work out with your call to Piaggio with the VIN number?
The updated fuel pump package is identifiable by the presence of three blue dots on the power conection on top of the pack and a brown fuel connector on the pump which hangs suspended from the pack with the filter. The pack is installed through the top of the fuel tank.
It is worth your while to call and be persistant as the pack installed can run you $400 if you had to pay for it yourself. The pump if you want to rebuild the pack yourself however is a pretty standard item and costs about $30. It is similar to the Carter in tank fuel pumps used in many Toyota Camrey's. Personally I would let the dealer take care of it for free and if anything goes wrong then its still their problem.
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Post by shalomdawg on Oct 3, 2013 15:06:06 GMT -5
howdy, i have a friend that has the bv250 and he also had a problem with the plug wire which left him stranded. i had also on the 35o a problem with the plug wire and it caused the check engine light to come on till it was fixed. i don't know what year bv you have, but it may have the electronic engine management that is able to store error codes and could be checked out at the nearest dealer. any vespa dealer could do it as well.
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by rockynv on Oct 3, 2013 22:22:57 GMT -5
A lot of folks who service the bikes themselves and even some dealers forget to make sure the end of the spark plug wire is tight when they service the plug. It only takes a moment to check and tighten it a half turn or so if it has started to loosen. Should be SOP but many miss this until they are about to fall off.
Still have the vin run and have any free services taken care of. Piaggio is very good about standing behind there bikes and pays their dealers top dollar to treat you right. Watch out though as some unscrupulous dealers take the Piaggio money but never perform the services. Sometimes your recall will be checked off as having been accomplished however the dealer may have only done it on paper.
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Post by scooterstan on Oct 18, 2013 16:58:17 GMT -5
Finally got logged back on. Toughest part of this forum, or I'm doing something wrong. I contacted Piaggio, both of our bikes need the fuel pump. The biggest problem I am having now is, Piaggio dealers are dropping like flies. My have to travel 300 miles to get to one. Bummer.
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Post by tvnacman on Oct 18, 2013 18:58:24 GMT -5
If you listen when you turn the key you can hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds . See if you can hear it when the problem is happening . If you getting a code flash see if you can count the flashes .
John
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Post by rockynv on Oct 18, 2013 21:38:49 GMT -5
If you listen when you turn the key you can hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds . See if you can hear it when the problem is happening . If you getting a code flash see if you can count the flashes . John Problem with the fuel pump is the impeller is not compatable with ethanol and starts to swell until it gets to the point it can't spin up fast enough to satisfy the minimum fuel pressure required for the ECU to allow spark. Mine never flashed a code but has not given me any trouble since I had it checked and replaced before it gave me any real problems about 17,000 or so miles ago. The service takes less than an hour and I had them take care of it while I waited. |
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