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Post by endru on Sept 16, 2013 20:36:21 GMT -5
Check out the difference between jet on the left which came stock in my carb and the jet on the right which I ordered a while back. I just now noticed: The head of the newer jet is slightly longer than the head of the stock jet - 0.7mm longer to be exact. Overall length is the same, as is thread diameter, number of threads and distance between each thread is the same. Would using the jet with the longer head cause issues? From what I understand, the needle comes in at the threaded end of the jet. If the head is longer, then the threaded end wouldn't screw in as far, which means the needle wouldn't go into the jet as far... so my guess is yes it would cause problems. In the past I bad bad startups and idle, making me guess the needle wasn't closing off the main jet the whole way at idle. Additionally, I had a 50mm bbk and free flow exhaust and air filter, yet I couldn't get the scooter to run half decently on anything larger than an # main, which is definitely abnormal. The other thing worth mentioning is that my idle jet is not the same shape as a typical idle jet. It's still a Keihin idle jet, but slightly different. See my previous thread itistheride.boards.net/index.cgi?board=50ac&action=display&thread=2703So... am I on to something here? Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 22:36:13 GMT -5
I dont think so. I think the length of the needle dictates that it wont effect anything either way
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Post by ltdhpp on Sept 17, 2013 11:31:06 GMT -5
From what I understand, the needle comes in at the threaded end of the jet. If the head is longer, then the threaded end wouldn't screw in as far, which means the needle wouldn't go into the jet as far... so my guess is yes it would cause problems. Nope, the needle doesn't touch the main jet, it rests in the tube that the main jet screws into. As long as the 'different' jet screws in all the way and you don't see a gap that would let fuel through, I'd think it would be fine.
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Post by f4milytime on Sept 17, 2013 11:37:52 GMT -5
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Post by endru on Sept 17, 2013 20:49:48 GMT -5
That would be a relief, I guess. I was hoping I had discovered a silver bullet that would fix my persisting scooter problems. Maybe no such luck though. I researched jetsrus.com and other sites that sell jets and include detailed measurements and it looks like there is really only one size jet for these carbs anyway, i.e. there's no "shorter head" version of the jets I have. I just really think it's an odd carb to begin with, given the abnormal idle screw and the fact that the needle clip is not adjustable. I would have liked to buy a beefier carb anyway, like 23mm or something, except that then I think I'd need a larger intake manifold and a new 42mm UNI filter. But hey, if I were certain it would fix my problems, then I would jump right on that.
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Post by skuttadawg on Sept 17, 2013 20:52:45 GMT -5
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Post by endru on Sept 17, 2013 21:23:08 GMT -5
Yep, that's the list I researched. It's the Keihin 99101-116 that we're looking at.
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