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Post by prodigit on Aug 23, 2013 1:35:35 GMT -5
Out of the two, they're almost identical bikes, come down to identical price. The Yingang YG-250-NF: or the Roketa MC_D250RTC_B: The Yingang has a nicer looks, but the chrome might rust very fast, and the tach/speedo looks like analog to me. The Roketa has a digital tach, I have no experience with riding a digital tach during daylight or night, and if the readout is ok, or too small to see while riding? The roketa also looks more plasticky, or fake compared to the Yingang.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 23, 2013 7:25:10 GMT -5
The orange one seems from a brand called Yingang. It's a brand that seems to work together with Italy on designing engine parts and transmissions. Their engine and transmissions are home made, and they exceed standard Chinese engine curves. The stock Yingang engine has 25HP@8k RPM. The stock Roketa engine has 18,5HP @ 8k RPM. The stock Chinese engine has 16,7HP @ 7,5k RPM. The Yingang engine is a copy of an older Honda model, that's restricted for pollution reasons. When removing the secondary air injector (that burns off exhaust fuels), and disabling the rev-limiter to go from 8.5k RPM to 11.5k RPM, HP increases from 25 to 32HP, and when opening the air intake another few HP's can be gained, and top speed increases to ~+110MPH. The roketa is limited to sub 85MPH speeds. Yingang seems to be the way to go. Now only deciding which Yingang. The orange naked bike: The blue naked bike: or the black racing bike: Colors aside, because one can get them in all 3 colors (blue, orange, black or white/silver).
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 23, 2013 7:34:09 GMT -5
I like the Yingang looks a bit more. More naked, less sport-bikey The Honda Grom is comparable on looks for sure - $3000, 125cc 9.7hp
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Post by domindart on Aug 23, 2013 7:43:41 GMT -5
I like the orange naked bike
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 23, 2013 13:36:16 GMT -5
I definitely like the Yingyang cosmetics better. The orange one also has a more "normal" seat that I prefer, and the engine is more open... There are some big differences in plastics, brakes, etc. and those differences might influence your decision. The only gripe I'd have is that NAME... LOL! I guess it's not quite as "humorous" as "WUSSY"
The Asian manufacturers would do a LOT better filling the American market, if they'd spend $15-grand on a "marketing dude" savvy in "Americanese" English to come up with brand and model names that would excite American riders, rather than make them chuckle...
Leo (trying not to be too much of a ying-yang) in Texas
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Post by prodigit on Aug 23, 2013 15:00:27 GMT -5
The problem with the orange bike, is that it's also the smallest bike, much similar to the Ninja 300 in measurments and riding position. It has a smaller wheel base than the others, but what I'm worried about most is that on the orange I'll be bent forward. The black one is a bit larger but I'll also sit forward. On the roketa I can sit upwards, as the bike is made for tall people.... Why is there always one reason to spoil my fun? ;X I think the black one will be targeted too much in my environment for theft. So I'll go with a naked design instead of a sports design. I don't know much about the blue bike, but like the orange bike a lot better, if it wasn't for it's awkward riding position, and small size.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Aug 23, 2013 16:53:49 GMT -5
Yingang. I like the seat better and absence of a lower fairing under the engine. I'm guessing it may be easier to get parts for the Rocketa though.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 23, 2013 19:35:36 GMT -5
I honestly have to say I don't prefer the seat on the Yingang, and I don't prefer the engine to be so open. I like the naked bike design, but what I like less is having wires visible. Always a chance of someone messing with the cables, either destroying your bike, or jumpstart it somehow. On my MC-05-127 I can jumpstart the bike (get the starter working)with a simple metal rod or screw driver, without even needing a key. To keep it running I just need to backtrace a wire and short circuit it. So I prefer closed body panels.
I ended up going with the Roketa, because it's $250 cheaper, and because the Yingang's speedo was off by a lot! On youtube there's a guy reaching 160kmh with a Yingang, but the real speed was only ~82-84MPH, not 100MPH, which is about the same as the Roketa, which probably makes that it's HP ratings are bloated too (26HP could be 20-21HP instead; a bit better than the Roketa, but not by much).
Third is parts. MX Motorsports is located in Miami. The dealer told me he has problems with getting parts, and recommended the Roketa instead.
I went with the roketa also because it's made for larger people. From the pictures I can see that the Yingang is small even for an average person of 5'6" to 5'8", imagine a 6'3" person!
The Roketa has been recommended for people of ~5'7" to 6'5". I'm 6'3".
I went with a white one, better insulation against the heat of the Miami sun.
I think I'll love the bike ;D
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Post by JR on Aug 23, 2013 19:45:48 GMT -5
First, I vote for the orange one, don't worry about the motor being ezposed.
Second, no way it will hit 110 mhp with any mods, probably will go 80. The Honda 250 twins will do about that
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 24, 2013 1:39:21 GMT -5
DX
Yup!
Leo
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Post by rockynv on Aug 24, 2013 4:32:41 GMT -5
The Roketa looks more like they are trying to emulate the look of the new Honda bikes. If Yingang is working with Italian engine designers then the 110 mph is possible if they copied the head designs closely enough and we are talking 11.1 or 12.1 compression ratios. The lack of a front fairing however could be more of a top speed limitation than the engine itself.
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