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Post by terrilee on Mar 4, 2013 19:21:33 GMT -5
i try and answer questions, unless there are already answers from people i know i can trust, who know they are talking about.
i dont think ive ever told anyone to fill their tires with oil, tho
sometime, more often than not tho, im completely wrong,
BUT thats my part of trying to answer.
to get my mind into the trying to diagnose a problem,
i dont have that kind of mind.
and PLEASE, if you see someone say something totally stupid,
like'fill your tires with oil, please jump in and dont ridicule them, just tell 'em what was wrong with their answer
and answer the OP's question with the right answer
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 4, 2013 19:24:39 GMT -5
I think I understand what wutz' is getting at, based from what I've read on SD.
There are folks who honestly have zero idea how to fix something. Yet they jump in fast with their suggestions for fixing whatever. And many times what they suggest isn't just wrong, it can make things way worse.
It would be like me offering mechanics advice. Except I know I'm totally non-mechanical and keep my "mouth" shut when folks are asking for mechanical help. It does seem like there's others that are pretty much non-mechanical like me, but unlike me don't know it.
The bad thing, wutz', is those folks just don't know they're offering bad or potentially harmful advice. They think they're helping. Period. Hard for a newb who doesn't know the diff. But hopefully the newbs will also be seeing other posts with the correct advice.
>'Kat
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Post by inuyasha on Mar 4, 2013 19:25:43 GMT -5
Hi
Sometimes the wrong answers can make us think in a different way and can in fact lead one to a solution
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours Hank
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Post by prodigit on Mar 4, 2013 19:31:30 GMT -5
Who said to fill up the tires with oil?
I've ever thought of this possibility, in a sense, hairline cracks in tires could be sealed with oil, but nevertheless, if a small drop of oil penetrates the tires, there's catastrophic consequences!
I've never publically said to fill tires with oil, because of that reason, but it's a (very bad) way to try to seal hairline cracks.
There's slime for that nowadays. Slime that supposed to harden over time.
Some kind of liquid silicone that will become like rubber as it hardens (unless you put too much in a tire).
Anyway...
The idea of putting oil in a tire is not generated in my mind alone then, and though it may at first sight look like a great idea, when you continue the train of thought, it's really lethal!
lol
I think a lot of people generate a lot of ideas , and it only takes a bit of thinking to prove a theory effective, or destructive.
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Post by spandi on Mar 4, 2013 19:36:25 GMT -5
What we need is a mighty Favog of scoots!  |
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Post by ericrockstar on Mar 4, 2013 19:36:43 GMT -5
COME ON! IT WAS A JOKE!! So I told some guy to attach side post jumper cables to his nipples, JEESH! Promise, I'll never do it again!
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Post by tvnacman on Mar 4, 2013 19:38:48 GMT -5
COME ON! IT WAS A JOKE!! So I told some guy to attach side post jumper cables to his nipples, JEESH! Promise, I'll never do it again! I got a chucckle out of that one . John |
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Post by prodigit on Mar 4, 2013 19:39:39 GMT -5
I posted a while ago a picture on 'the other forum'. It tells a nice truth. I posted it as: "The way people see things is not necessarily wrong!":  |
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Post by wutzthedeal on Mar 4, 2013 19:47:13 GMT -5
I think I understand what wutz' is getting at, based from what I've read on SD. There are folks who honestly have zero idea how to fix something. Yet they jump in fast with their suggestions for fixing whatever. And many times what they suggest isn't just wrong, it can make things way worse. It would be like me offering mechanics advice. Except I know I'm totally non-mechanical and keep my "mouth" shut when folks are asking for mechanical help. It does seem like there's others that are pretty much non-mechanical like me, but unlike me don't know it. The bad thing, wutz', is those folks just don't know they're offering bad or potentially harmful advice. They think they're helping. Period. Hard for a newb who doesn't know the diff. But hopefully the newbs will also be seeing other posts with the correct advice. >'Kat Yup, that sums it up. By default, we that don't know a lot about scooters tend to automatically ascribe this expert label to those that answer us authoritatively, so if they have given us a wrong answer or bad advice that we are taking as the gospel, bad stuff will follow. And sadly, others have to police posts to quickly denounce things that are untrue. So unnecessary to have to go to that length, you know? Nobody actually suggested those things, prodigit; I was using them as examples of bad advice. |
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Post by wutzthedeal on Mar 4, 2013 19:48:21 GMT -5
What we need is a mighty Favog of scoots! Word! Respect his authori-TYE! |
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Post by scootnwinn on Mar 4, 2013 20:07:19 GMT -5
I know what wutz is talking about we just need to gently say be careful or you may not try that try this I often will just say be careful who's advice you take. As a Newby its a good idea to check the advisors last 20 posts in context. I will often chime in to say yes do that or add this to that so they know they have good advice. I too have been wrong troubleshooting something you can't see or hear is very hard...
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 4, 2013 22:37:09 GMT -5
Being wrong is one thing, scootn'. Happens to everyone, esp when you aren't actually there diagnosing the bike's troubles.
But being unknowledgeable and trying to offer technical help is not good.
Maybe that's the answer, part what wutz' said and part what scootn' implied. When offering advice, say something like "In my experience...and this worked for my situation." And those who DO know, and notice who keeps offering bad advice (like every time), politely post maybe they didn't understand the problem correctly, or something even more tactful (Lord knows I'm no master of tact!) You know, something that warns the OP that here's somebody to not listen to, but without just smacking that somebody down. 'Cause at least they want to help. That's a plus for them.
And when you're wrong, then man up and apologize for offering incorrect advice. And explain where you were coming from with your advice, so folks know you're not non-technical, you just happened to miss this time.
Or maybe not. I don't know. I tend to avoid the "help me" threads 'cause I know I can't. And I know if I need help my bike's going to the mechanic's.
>'Kat, hoping to not offend anyone else here....
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 4, 2013 22:38:55 GMT -5
Btb spandi, what's a "mighty Favog"? And 'digit, I've seen that 'toon before. Loved it then, still love it. Hilarious. Esp to a painter. Luckily my nose isn't that big!  >'Kat |
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Post by shalomrider on Mar 4, 2013 23:45:07 GMT -5
howdy, sometimes the situation is not adequately described ie. some information not complete or specific. then it may be appropriate to take a guess and answer with some generic info that may or may not fit in the hope that something said will stimulate right thought. other times when an opinion is asked, i enjoy taking the "road less traveled" and present from a different point of view. again my hope is to stimulate truly helpful thought. i suspect mostly i'm wrong, but maybe those here can indulge and just let the wrong run off like water off the duck.
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by luke on Mar 5, 2013 0:53:58 GMT -5
how'd you know that they are offering bad advice if you're not mechanically inclined yourself??
some would advice based from years of experience and some based from technical know how( by the book) some are just shooting the stars.
but if one tells me to put boric acid roach killer inside my crank case, i won'tdo it cuz i know that cocroach cannot survive inside the crank case. it all a lie.
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